Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Arizona's Pinal Air Park (Marana): CIA Black Ops facility or just a boneyard for commercial aircraft?

by Norio Hayakawa
E-mail: noriohayakawa@rocketmail.com

For many years, the civilian intelligence communities (as well as part of the public sector) seemed to have been aware of CIA's connection and presence at Arizona's Marana facility (a.k.a., Pinal Air Park or EVERGREEN AIR facility).

In the early 1990s, rumors began to circulate that the Marana facility (7 miles northwest of Marana) had been utilized by what was allegedly known then as the Multi-jurisdictional Task Force.

A friend of mine who, in 1991, was a commercial pilot for the American Airlines told me back then that one weekday (during his day off from work) he rented a Cessna plane and decided to fly over the Marana complex, just for curiosity.

He told me that while he was flying over the facility, he distinctly heard from his radio transmission the code word "MAJIC" several times. I thought that was quite interesting.

The rumors had it then that the facility was a training area for special helicopters as well as for other Black Ops programs. A school for governmental limo drivers was even said to have been there.

A few years ago I drove straight to this Pinal Air Park and was told to turn around and leave immediately at the Guard Shack. Even today this facility is guarded by a private security force. (I am not certain if it is Wackenhut or not).

Since around February of 2010, another strange rumor about this "suspicious" facility has been circulating. (at least among some who hold on to conspiracy theories!!)

(Courtesy of Glenn Canady):


By the way anyone can clearly see this facility on Google Earth....just go to Marana in Arizona and look for Pinal Air Park, about 7 miles northwest of Marana.

Anyway, it is quite possible that, at one time, Pinal Air Park may have been used as a logistics airport for some CIA-involved operations.

Pinal Air Park claims that today it is nothing but a "boneyard" for civilian commercial aircraft, utilizing the dry desert climate to prevent any form of corrosion and says that it is one of the largest aircraft graveyards in the U.S.

It is quite difficult to state for sure what is really going on at Pinal Airpark.
Speculations abound.
One, for example, is:


Norio Hayakawa

Thursday, November 18, 2010

Nellis AFB range commander keeps his cool in a rare 1998 interview at Area 51 Public Hearing!!

from Norio Hayakawa at: Civilian Intelligence Central

Here is a rare, 1998 "interview" with Nellis AFB range commander by my colleague, Anthony J. Hilder.

This impromptu "interview" was held during a break between various speakers at a public hearing held in Las Vegas and organized by Nellis Air Force Base to discuss the aquisition of additional 4000 acres of public land as a buffer zone to the buffer zone at Area 51.

Anthony Hilder and I both attended this hearing which was held at El Dorado High School in Las Vegas. We both spoke at the hearing.

What was most amazing about this interview was that the commander did not expect such an impromptu "interview" which lasted close to 10 minutes.

However, the commander surprisingly kept his cool throughout the grueling, tough questioning by conspiracy-promoting Anthony J. Hilder.
Anthony J. Hilder pulled no punches.
But my hat's off to the Commander for keeping his cool. He responded to the questions exactly as he was trained to do.

This historical "interview" was one of the most serious (but yet most amazing, amusing, historical and even hysterical) interviews I have ever witnessed with my own eyes. I was right next to Hilder, looking at the Commander.

(Actually I felt a little embarassed when Anthony began to bombard him with questions I am sure that sounded "nuttier" and "nuttier" to the commander).




According to a military aviation historian, Commander Percival was, at that time, a wing commander not of Detachment 3 of the Air Force Flight Test Center (DET 3, AFFTC, the official name for the "operating base near Groom Lake", Nevada, a.k.a., Area 51, assigned, managed and operated by Edwards AFB AFFTC) but a wing commander of Nellis Air Force Range itself, which is not directly affiliated with the operations at Groom Lake.

By the way, the U.S. government (through the Department of Energy) finally began to compensate these workers who were sickened while they worked at Groom Lake. The reason for their illnesses was primarily because they were contaminated by toxic chemicals used in stealth programs (stealth coatings, etc.) at the base and not because of bacteriological weapons.


Sunday, November 14, 2010

My perspective on the UFO phenomenon

from Norio Hayakawa at Civilian Intelligence Central

E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com

November 14, 2010

My perspective on the UFO phenomenon is based on the propositions made by both Dr. Jacques Vallee and Tomas Scolarici (a.k.a., James Black):

1. "The things we call unidentified flying objects are neither objects nor flying.
They can materialize, as some reliable photographs seem to show, and they violate the laws of motion as we know them".
(QUOTE from Dr. Jacques Vallee's acclaimed book, DIMENSIONS)

2. "Those unidentified flying objects that remain UNIDENTIFIED and challenge any natural definition, are not a new phenomenon.
These "Entities" are with us from the beginning of our historical times, and perhaps before."
(QUOTE from Tomas Solarici, a.k.a., James Black).

"UFOs have been seen throughout history and have consistently received (or provided) their own explanation within the framework of each culture.
In antiquity their occupants were regarded as gods; in medieval times, as magicians; in the nineteenth century, as scientific geniuses; in our own time, as interplanetary travelers.
(Statements made by occupants of the 1897 airship included such declarations as 'We are from Kansas' and even 'We are from anywhere....but we'll be in Greece tomorrow')"
(QUOTE from Dr. Jacques Vallee's acclaimed book, DIMENSIONS)

3. "UFO reports are not necessarily caused by visits from space travelers. The phenomenon could be a manifestation of a much more complex technology. If time and space are not as simple in structure as physicists have assumed until now, then the question 'Where do they come from?' may be meaningless; they could come from a place in time. If consciousness can be manifested outside the body, then the range of hypotheses can be even wider."
(QUOTE from Dr. Jacques Vallee's acclaimed book, DIMENSIONS)

"The extraterrestrial hypothesis is not satisfactory at all. The time travelers hypothesis about UFOs, is better than the extraterrestrial one, but in no way answers all our questions".
(QUOTE from Tomas Solarici, a.k.a., James Black).

4) "The key to an understanding of the phenomenon lies in the psychic effects it produces (or the psychic awareness it makes possible) in its observers.
Their lives are often deeply changed, and they develop unusual talents with which they may find it difficult to cope.
The proportion of witnesses who do come forward and publish accounts of these experiences is quite low; most of them choose to remain silent".
(QUOTE from Dr. Jacques Vallee's acclaimed book, DIMENSIONS)

5) "Contact between human percipients and the UFO phenomenon always occurs under conditions controlled by the latter. Its characteristic feature is a factor of absurdity that leads to a rejection of the story by the upper layers of the target society and an absorption at a deep unconscious level of the symbols conveyed by the encounter.
The mechanism of this resonance between the UFO symbol and the archetypes of the human unconscious has been abundantly demonstrated by Carl Jung, whose book FLYING SAUCERS makes many references to the age-old significance of the signs in the sky".
(QUOTE from Dr. Jacques Vallee's acclaimed book, DIMENSIONS)

"The UFO phenomenon COEXISTS with us, humans.
The UFO phenomenon is with us, was with our ancestors and will be in the future without changes.
These "Entities" have no need, or are not interested, or cannot openly contact us"
(QUOTE from Tomas Solarici, a.k.a., James Black).

6) "It's possible that the complexity of the UFO phenomenon makes any understanding impossible.
Nobody knows what the UFO phenomenon is, and probably we will never know more"
(QUOTE from Tomas Solarici, a.k.a., James Black).

7) "The UFO phenomenon is not a threat to our security.
The same phenomenon neither was a threat for the Sumerians or Romans, or Indians".
(QUOTE from Tomas Solarici, a.k.a., James Black).

8) "There is no such thing as a cover-up, and the authorities know as little about the nature of the UFO phenomenon as ourselves.
They learned however that the UFO phenomenon is not a threat for our Security".
(QUOTE from Tomas Solarici, a.k.a., James Black).

I am in total agreement with both Dr. Jacques Vallee and Tomas Solarici, a.k.a., James Black.
Yes, they summarize my personal position on the entire UFO phenomenon.
This is the reason why, in my opinion, there will be no such thing as DISCLOSURE by the government.
Sure, the governments of the world could release ALL files on UFO sightings anytime, if they wish to.
However, just releasing such files will do absolutely nothing, since the public will clamor for the explanations as to what the UFO phenomenon is.
The government is only responsible for explaining things that deal with physical, tangible, solid, empirical evidence as we know them.
Anything else, the governmet is not in the business of dealing with.
If there will be any DISCLOSURE, it will come directly from the "Entities" themselves or from a paradigm-shifted majority of mankind (which has not happened yet).

Norio Hayakawa


Although some people may label me as a UFO skeptic, I have never been (and will never be) a UFO debunker.

I have researched the phenomenon for more than 45 years, and although it seems (at least to me) that there appears to be no physical, tangible, irrefutable evidence whatsoever that we have ever been visited by physical extraterrestrials in physical UFOs, I have never been (and will never be) a debunker.

The UFO phenomenon and the "belief in UFOs" (as physical spacecraft piloted or maneuvered by physical aliens from elsewhere in the universe) are separate matters.

It is highly likely that the U.S. intelligence communities as well as the military have manipulated (and in some instances even created) a segment of the population's "belief in UFOs" as part of counter intelligence operations. Many defense contractors still continue to create cover stories to conceal or detract attention away from public's scrutiny of sensitive defense programs.
Yes, people's "belief in UFOs" is a very important factor in all of this.

What about alien visitations?
As most UFO enthusiasts have heard already, theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking (one of the most brilliant minds of our time) recently made several statements suggesting that there OUGHT to be extraterrestrial life and civilization elsewhere in this vast universe.

But he also made a puzzling statement (a statement which has not been popular with most UFO enthusiasts) saying that "aliens have never visited earth in UFOs and will never visit earth in UFOs".

Here is what he said: "I discount suggestions that UFOs contain beings from outer space. I think any visits by aliens would be much more obvious, and probably also, much more unpleasant."

"What is the explanation of why we have not been visited? One possibility is that the argument about the appearance of life on Earth, is wrong. Maybe the probability of life spontaneously appearing is so low, that Earth is the only planet in the galaxy, or in the observable universe, in which it happened. Another possibility is that there was a reasonable probability of forming self reproducing systems, like cells, but that most of these forms of life did not evolve intelligence."

"I am discounting reports of UFOs".
So, basically, Stephen Hawking thinks aliens exist somewhere in the universe but doesn't believe any are visiting us.

Stephen Hawking is not only skeptical about UFOs but also about alien abductions.

Yes, it is true that I consider myself a UFO skeptic when it comes to alien visitations.
I was a strong proponent of the E.T. hypothesis of the origins of UFOs up till the late 1970s when I began to abandon that theory. That was when I became a UFO skeptic.
But I consider myself a "healthy" skeptic.
That is to say, my policy is to give an opportunity to any sincere researcher to express their viewpoints, even if I may not agree with them.

Do I believe in the existence of "underground bases"?
Yes, certainly I believe that there may be "underground bases", large and small, in many locations but personally I tend to believe that those are government/military/scientific installations or laboratories that have nothing to do with aliens.
I still maintain that if, for example, the alleged Dulce underground installations in New Mexico really exist, they would most likely be related to the U.S. government's biological warfare research facilities.
However, as difficult as this may be for me to say, I do not rule out anything.

Yes, "healthy" skepticism is very important because it does not completely leave the door closed.
The door must be kept open, even slightly, for any possibility.
I am a believer in open platforms so that people with other viewpoints could freely express their opinions.


Saturday, November 13, 2010

A suspicious ranch at the foothills of Archuleta Mesa on the Colorado side?

A suspicious ranch at the foothills of Archuleta Mesa on the Colorado side?

by Norio Hayakawa
November 13, 2010

November 11, 2010 was quite an interesting day for me.

A good colleague of mine from Dulce and I drove the entire circumference of the Archuleta Mesa, beginning from County Rd. 357 (going north) from Highway 64 in Lumberton to view the eastern slope and then entering into Colorado (near Edith), and then going west and then north on County Rd. 359 (Coyote Park Rd.) and then going northeast on County Rd. 542 (Montezuma Rd.) and then viewing the northern foothills of the Mesa.

From there we went south on County Rd. 500 (south Trujillo Rd.) and then to Indian Rte 169 (Juanita Rd.), crossing into New Mexico side to see the Western Slope and finally to the southern hills of the Mesa along the Navajo River north of the town of Dulce. All these roads were dirt roads.
We drove about 45 miles to take the entire trip around the Mesa.
This really showed me how large the entire Archuleta Mesa area is.
(By the way the Archuleta Mesa includes Mount Archuleta on the west side, just south of the Colorado state line).

In this trip we did not see anything unusual, except for a somewhat suspicious-looking private ranch (the Redding Ranch) on the northern side of the Archuleta Mesa (the Colorado side).

There seemed to be a metallic hangar-like building in the ranch and, if that is the case, then most likely a landing strip behind it.
There were some small buildings in the ranch, along with four or five metallic (bullet-proof?) hunting-towers that seem to guard the area. Those hunting towers definitely seemed out of place in such an area.
This former private ranch (the Redding Ranch) changed hands many times and is now under the total control of the Utes of Southern Colorado, and the warning sign says "No Trespassing" and "property of the Utes tribe". Could this be an outpost for a base or an operating area in Archuleta Mesa?


It seemed to me that this type of a compound could easily be used by any Black Ops programs.
Moreover, the Redding Ranch may be the only access to the Archuleta Mesa from the Colorado side.

As for the Eastern slope areas of Archueta Mesa (as we drove on County Rd. 357 from Lumberton towards Edith), it seems that the Mesa is inaccessible to any heavy traffic (such as trucks, etc) since it is protected by the river and since there are no bridges on any northeastern portion of the mesa.

According to the Air Force Colonel from whom Anthony Sanchez got the information, the second, two-level underground installation is located in an area between the Eastern slope of Archuleta Mesa and County Rd. 357, near the Colorado stateline.

True, it seems that there are some ranches (which could easily be used as outposts for any Black Ops programs) near the northerneastern portion of the Mesa on the Colorado side. However, the logistics involved in creating such an alleged entrance and concealed heli-pads in that area may have been difficult or nearly impossible with lack of any bridges to get to the Eastern as well as to the Northeastern slope.
As I just mentioned it seems that the only access to the Mesa from the northeastern side or from the North side of the Mesa (i.e., from the Colorado side) may be from the Redding Ranch.

Anyway, as I mentioned, we continued driving further westward from the Redding Ranch area (still on County Rd. 542 - i.e., Montezuma Rd. - and then turned southward towards New Mexico from County Rd. 500 (Trujillo Rd.).
Then we took Indian Rte 169 (Juanita Rd., which is a public road) and entered New Mexico through County Rd. 551 (which is also a public road) to view the Western hills of the Mesa, which is also very rugged area.
Then we turned eastward on J-9 Rd. (a public road) towards Dulce.

J-9 Rd. splits into two, one becoming the Narrow Gage Rd. (also a public road which becomes Jicarilla Rd. that merges with Hwy 64 which takes you in front of Best Western and then on to Lumberton and to Chama) and the other one which becomes J-2 Rd. (also a public road).

The J-2 Rd. (a public road) is the road alongside the southern rugged hills of Archuleta Mesa.
About a third of a mile on J-2 Rd. (from the juncture of J-9 Rd. and J-2 Rd.) there is a steep road that takes you towards the summit of Mount Archuleta. Legally one must be accompanied by a Jicarilla Apache person in order to drive or hike on this steep road. Mount Archuleta is located near the west side of the Mesa slightly south of the Colorado stateline. It definitely seems that one would need a 4-wheel drive just to drive on that steep, rugged road towards the Mountain.

Then about a mile or so east on J-2 Rd., there is a steep road towards the Mesa called the Seguro Canyon Rd. This also seems to be a rugged road and probably the only road that will take you only to a point one third (if one is willing to hike for two or three hours further) to the radio antenna towers of the Archuleta Mesa). Legally one must also be accompanied by a Jicarilla Apache person in order to drive or hike on this road.

All of this shows that the access to Archuleta Mesa from the southern hills is extremely difficult, unless one is willing to hike for 5 or 6 hours to the top of the Mesa on the eastern side (the communications towers area) from these two steep roads. Moreover, as I mentioned, legally one must be accompanied by a Jicarilla Apache person to get to the top.

The way to get back to Dulce from J-2 Rd. is to keep going east on J-2 Rd. Then you will cross the bridge which connects J-2 Rd. and the River Rd.
The River Rd. then becomes Hawks Dr. which takes you back to Best Western Hotel area on Hwy 64.


*From a 1998 report by the National Institute For Discovery Science Report on the Redding War
Ranch at Mt. Archuleta, New Mexico - Colorado Border

"It has been reported in the media and on the internet that the Redding War Ranch, located at 37° 2.91' north latitude and 107° 1.44' west longitude (GPS) next to Mt. Archuleta (straddling New Mexico - Colorado border), is rumored to be an undercover facility engaged in secret activity connected with Mt. Archuleta. These rumors further state that the ranch has eight armed guard watch towers scattered along the property. In addition, there is an unusual round steel (and air conditioned) building located behind a ranch entrance gate on the opposite side of the property (37° 6.02' north latitude and 107° 2.85' west longitude - GPS).

A metal plaque prominently posted on a watch tower door identified the manufacturer as Houston Blow Pipe & Steel Plate Works (P.O. BOX 1692, Houston, TX 77251-1692, phone: 713-675-2273, FAX: 713-675-5038). Having seen the towers and being interested in their origin and purpose, a simple phone call was made to the phone number above. It was learned during the phone conversation that the President and CEO of the company is Mr. W. A. Redding. Contrary to the myths that have been perpetuated, a simple explanation was provided by Mr. Redding.

1) Mr. Redding stated that the watch towers are actually hunting stands with the brand name "The Ultimate Hunting Stand." The hunting stands on the ranch are weather proof-heavy gauge steel construction (5 feet diameter, 850 pounds est. total weight) equipped with 10 feet high steel angle frame supports, steel ladder or a steel walk-up type stairway with steel pipe hand railing, propane heater and tank, five large one way mirror-pane plate glass (hinged and latched) windows (hunters can see out, but game cannot see inside), swivel chair, and indoor-outdoor carpet on floor and side wall. Further, the stands are used for photographing game and birds, and hunting of game (deer, elk, javelina, moose, sheep and turkeys). According to published literature, the stands have been in production since 1963 and employ 75 years of hunting and 60 years of steel fabrication experience in their design for all-weather hunting.

2) The round steel building is a bunk house for ranch hands designed and manufactured by Mr. Redding's Houston steel company. The bunk house design employs the same all-weather heavy gauge steel construction as the hunting stands along with air conditioning and fuel-oil heater. It is not currently being used.

3) The owner of the Redding War Ranch is Mr. Redding himself. He can be contacted at the phone number given above.

4) The Redding War Ranch is used to raise small herds of Beefalo"


Yes, I think so.
Here is what my good colleague from Dulce says about this. And I agree with him:

"Based on the source of research by NIDS, yes, this was their take on the ranch years after the ranch let its defense down and allowed folks to travel through it.
From early 1960's to late 1980's, you could not trespass on the Redding ranch, not even to retrieve a cow.
That is the million dollar question.
And, why are all the structures including the towers, doors and windows in bunkhouse constructed of a very heavy gage steel (making them bullet proof)?
NIDS continues to provide information or is it disinformation? to keep us off track, in my opinion.

In the fall of 1997, I led Gabe Valdez (former New Mexico State Patrol Officer in charge of the Dulce area) and two other scientists from NIDS on the expedition and continued through up to Mt. Archuleta.

We were able to go directly to the towers, enter, photograph and see the tags with the manufacturer.
I told them that the glass, doors, shutters and structures were bullet-proof and was going to show them, but inexplicably, Gabe Valdez stopped me.
I could not get them to go to the "bunkhouse and hangar" to investigate further.
It seemed that they were not very interested in the facilities.
Also, I noticed that the airstrip had been plowed and planted with oats.
But again, no interest was shown by Gabe Valdez and the NIDS folks".

I could not agree with him more, especially his take on NIDS.
I also do not trust NIDS (National Institute of Discovery Sciences).

Norio Hayakawa

Tuesday, November 9, 2010

Some old but fascinating reports from Dulce, New Mexico residents

E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com

Here are some old but fascinating UFO sighting reports from Dulce, New Mexico residents.

The first one is actually a quote from an article written by reporter Tom Sharpe* that appeared on April 5, 1996 on Albuquerque Journal:


"Darren Vigil Gray says that in the late 1960s, when he was a fourth-grader on the Jicarilla Apache Reservation in northern Rio Arriba County, he saw a flying saucer on his way to parochial school about 6:30 a.m.
A "dirty metallic colored" disk about 20 feet in diameter passed about 50 feet in the air over his school bus between Dulce and Lumberton, he said.

"It created all this chaos on the bus", Gary said. He said his brother, then a sixth-grader, yelled, "It's a flying saucer", but the priest driving the van didn't stop to investigate the phenomenon and instead stepped on the gas.
Gray said the disk appeared to come from Archuleta Mesa and continued for several miles over the low hills south of the highway.
He said cattle mutilations soon began to be reported in the same area, and the mesa was said to be a sort of UFO base.
"The experience really changed my whole scope", said Gray, now a well-known artist in Santa Fe.


This is quite interesting because according to researcher Anthony Sanchez, an alleged former Air Force Colonel in California told Sanchez that one of the entrances to the base is located between the eastern slope of Archuleta Mesa and County Road 357 near the Colorado state line. County Road 357 going north starts on Highway 64 in Lumberton. Lumberton does have a well-known Catholic school and I clearly remember a teacher from that school testified at the 2009 Dulce base conference (held in Dulce, New Mexico) about some interesting artistic imagery (relating to many UFO sightings in that area) created by many children who attended that school.

I also just recently learned that one of the sons of Manuel Gomez (formerly the largest rancher in the Dulce area) was also in the same bus with Darren Vigil Gray.
Now a good colleague of mine and fellow researcher, he personally described to me the metallic, disc-shaped object that he saw from inside the same bus that morning.
According to him, the object was flying slightly above Highway 64.....only less than 10 feet above the highway.....and this took place between Dulce and Lumberton.
He told me that the bus driver, a priest from the Catholic school in Lumberton, got so scared that he began to step on the gas pedal and sped toward the school in Lumberton.

The following interviews were conducted by members of the Aztec UFO Oral History Project. Many thanks to the Aztec UFO Oral History Project for preserving these fascinating reports:

Here is a January, 2000 interview with Lloyd Tiznado regarding UFO activity in Dulce, New Mexico:

What is particularly interesting in the above interview is that the interviewee mentions about a possible UFO base south of Dulce between Dulce and Gobernador.
This is just south of Highway 64 and southwest from the juncture of Highway 64 and Highway 537.
Again, according to researcher Anthony Sanchez, an alleged former Air Force Colonel in California claimed to have stated that the third underground installation was right near Ground Zero area of the 1967 underground nuclear explosion. The colonel will not give the exact co-ordinates to the entrance of this third installation but he hints that it is not too far from Ground Zero.

By the way, here is how to get to the Ground Zero area of the 1967 underground nuclear explosion site:

From U.S. Highway 64 going southwest from Dulce, go past the juncture of Highway 64 and Highway 537. Keep on going for about another 6 and a half miles.
Then turn south onto BIA-J10.
After a little over 7 miles, bear right at the fork in the road.
Stay on this road.
You will enter Carson National Forest, and it's another half-mile to Ground Zero, where there is a U.S. government plaque.

Here is a June, 2001 interview with Brian from Dulce:
http://www.aztecufo.com/ufooralhistory/oral13.htmand, finally,

Here is a 2001 interview with Bernadette regarding underground noises in Dulce, New Mexico:


*Former Albuquerque Journal reporter, Tom Sharpe, seemed to have believed that one of the origins of the rumors about the Dulce underground base and tunnels may have stemmed from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' works on the San Juan-Chama Diversion Project (which may have started in the mid 1960s), involving some 100 miles of deep tunnels to channel water from the west side of the Continental Divide (near Dulce) to the east side.

Others trace the rumors to the 1967 underground experimental nuclear blast which took place about 22 miles southwest of Dulce. This U.S. governmental experiment, carried out by the Atomic Energy Commision, was called Project Gasbuggy and was purportedly conducted to ease the flow of natural gas in that region.
Some say that this may have caused creation of further cavities in that region, facilitating the creation of underground tunnels in that area.

On top of all this came the cattle mutilations which seemed to have started in the mid 1970s in that area, giving rise to the rumors about the already existent "alien" involvement in all of this.