Monday, September 28, 2009
2012 and the occultic symbolism of "33 degrees"?
THE YEAR 2012 AND THE OCCULTIC SYMBOLISM OF "33 DEGREES"?
Here is an interesting item from the Internet:
(QUOTE):
The numbers 33 and 3 are both prominently featured in occult doctrine. Ancient mythology teaches that the "sons of God" (fallen angels cast out of Heaven with Lucifer?) landed on earth on Mount Hermon. It was then in Phoenicia; now in Israel.
Its altitude makes it Israel's primary strategic early warning system.
This was the first location of "extraterrestrial" influence on man. Using the old Paris Meridian, this lies exactly at 33.33 degrees north and 33.33 degrees east. It is also 2012 miles from the equator and 2012 miles from the Paris Meridian. The Paris Meridian is the meridian to which many ancient structures are aligned. The number of nautical miles in 33.33 degrees of the earth is 2012.9.
This corresponds to the year, month and day (December 21, 2012) that the ancient Mayans believed their calendar would end. Many believe that December 21, 2012 is the date that the "sons of God" will return to earth and establish a new world order. They will be led by a powerful "unearthly" ruler.
Will this be the return of the Nephilim through dimensional gates or "stargates"?
(*Some equate the return of the Nephilim with the literal or symbolical return of Mesoamerican deity, Quetzalcoatl - - the "Flying Serpent").
Will this be the awaited antichrist? Do Nephilim need space craft to enter this dimension?
Was Roswell one such craft?
(*Was the 1947 Roswell incident an intentionally "staged" incident by an unknown force - in collusion with a small, select, secretive group within our government - to condition us for what is to come?)
(*It is interesting to note that the alleged location of the alleged Roswell "crash" is said to be exactly on 33.33 degrees latitude, which, again is 2012 miles from the equator).
Masons believe that this "new age" or "new world order" will come out of chaos. Is "Chaos" beginning now? Will it get more and more chaotic than it is in 2009?
(UNQUOTE)
*my comments (by Norio Hayakawa)
(By the way, coincidentally or not, .3333 ad infinitum is the decimal expression of one third. Is this somehow related to the one third of angelic entities who rebelled against the Creator/Designer and fell from the heavenly domain? Also, .666 ad infinitum could be a symbol of human nature. Therefore, .3333 ad infinitum and .666 ad infinitum added (i.e., .999999 ad infinitum) will never reach a whole number, i.e., a completeness or the complete Being or the perfect Designer of this universe.
Also it is fascinating that Jesus fulfilled his sacrificial mission precisely at the age of 33, allowing himself to be the sacrificial lamb, himself assuming all sins and nailing all humanity's sins on the cross for our freedom.)
Reference: Nephilim Stargates - the year 2012 and the return of the Watchers, by Thomas R. Horn
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Monday, July 20, 2009
Strange behavior of Col. John Alexander in the early 1990's
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The Civilian Intelligence Network's focus has been on the study of how a segment of the population's "beliefs in UFOs" (as physical alien spacecraft) may have been manipulated (and in some cases, may even have been created) and taken advantage of by the U.S. intelligence community and by the military in certain counter intelligence programs and operations.
E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com
In the early 1990's I had a chance to visit a Col. John Alexander at his office in Las Vegas.
Apparently he had just moved in to that office there.
He was quite cordial.
We asked him some questions about non-lethal weapons systems and their applications.
I even asked him a couple of questions about "thanatology".
It was quite interesting.
However, towards the end of the interview we asked him a question about "UFOs".
As soon as he heard us mention "UFOs", his attitude suddenly changed and he became totally upset.
He then scolded us and told us never to bring up that topic again.
He said that he had absolutely no interest in "UFOs".
Anyway, upon leaving his office (after we apologized to him) , he led us the way out of his office.
As soon as he started walking towards the hallway to lead us out of his office, I instantly went behind his desk and had a quick look at his computer screen.
To my amazement, his computer screen showed a partial list of UFO organizations and researchers.
To this day, I have no idea what to think of him and this experience there in his office.
This is why I still have a difficult time trusting the ultimate goal of organizations such as the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), financed and headed by Robert Bigelow of Las Vegas.
Col. John Alexander was under the payroll of Robert Bigelow in the 1990s.
(He still may be, even today).
My fear has been that the goal of NIDS is to dominate and control the flow of UFO information and to infiltrate organizations such as MUFON, through their vast financial resources.
I could have been wrong on this. I still am not sure.
P.S.
By the way, here is the response I got from Col. Alexander:
(QUOTE):
Norio
You are lying. Have no idea why. I've always been open to discussing UFO topic.
Your blog piece is mostly fabrication.
If you believe what you wrote, run, don't walk for the nearest shrink.
Feel free to post that.
John Alexander
(UNQUOTE)
There was no fabrication. I simply reported my experience at his office. I was right there with 3 Japanese journalists/researchers. How can I forget that experience!
The Civilian Intelligence Network's focus has been on the study of how a segment of the population's "beliefs in UFOs" (as physical alien spacecraft) may have been manipulated (and in some cases, may even have been created) and taken advantage of by the U.S. intelligence community and by the military in certain counter intelligence programs and operations.
E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com
In the early 1990's I had a chance to visit a Col. John Alexander at his office in Las Vegas.
Apparently he had just moved in to that office there.
He was quite cordial.
We asked him some questions about non-lethal weapons systems and their applications.
I even asked him a couple of questions about "thanatology".
It was quite interesting.
However, towards the end of the interview we asked him a question about "UFOs".
As soon as he heard us mention "UFOs", his attitude suddenly changed and he became totally upset.
He then scolded us and told us never to bring up that topic again.
He said that he had absolutely no interest in "UFOs".
Anyway, upon leaving his office (after we apologized to him) , he led us the way out of his office.
As soon as he started walking towards the hallway to lead us out of his office, I instantly went behind his desk and had a quick look at his computer screen.
To my amazement, his computer screen showed a partial list of UFO organizations and researchers.
To this day, I have no idea what to think of him and this experience there in his office.
This is why I still have a difficult time trusting the ultimate goal of organizations such as the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), financed and headed by Robert Bigelow of Las Vegas.
Col. John Alexander was under the payroll of Robert Bigelow in the 1990s.
(He still may be, even today).
My fear has been that the goal of NIDS is to dominate and control the flow of UFO information and to infiltrate organizations such as MUFON, through their vast financial resources.
I could have been wrong on this. I still am not sure.
P.S.
By the way, here is the response I got from Col. Alexander:
(QUOTE):
Norio
You are lying. Have no idea why. I've always been open to discussing UFO topic.
Your blog piece is mostly fabrication.
If you believe what you wrote, run, don't walk for the nearest shrink.
Feel free to post that.
John Alexander
(UNQUOTE)
There was no fabrication. I simply reported my experience at his office. I was right there with 3 Japanese journalists/researchers. How can I forget that experience!
My visits with Lyndon LaRouche and Victor Marchetti in 1994
The CIVILIAN INTELLIGENCE CENTRAL on Facebook
The Civilian Intelligence Network's focus has been on the study of how a segment of the population's "beliefs in UFOs" (as physical alien spacecraft) may have been manipulated (and in some cases, may even have been created) and taken advantage of by the U.S. intelligence community and by the military in certain counter intelligence programs and operations.
E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com
My visits with Lyndon LaRouche and Victor Marchetti in 1994
by Norio Hayakawa, July 20, 2009
Yesterday I was just thinking how fortunate I am to be able to tell my friends today that about 15 years ago I had a unique opportunity to personally visit two of the most fascinating individuals I have ever met in my life, even though, in retrospect, I may not totally agree or subscribe to their beliefs, politically or otherwise.
LYNDON LAROUCHE
If I recall, it was in 1994 that an author by the name of Masami Uno and I went to Virginia to interview a gentleman by the name of Lyndon LaRouche. At that time I had no idea who Lyndon LaRouche was. I was only accompanying Mr. Uno as an interpreter at that time.
I clearly remember that our driver drove us for miles and miles on loose gravelled roads and dirt roads in sparsely populated hilly region of Virginia.
Finally after miles and miles of driving in that hilly area, we reached what appeared to be a very large, isolated country-style wooden residence located on a hilltop.
When we arrived there, I recall that there were several men standing in front that looked to me like plain-clothes guards, protecting the residence.
From that moment on I got the feeling that Mr. LaRouche must have been a very controversial person.
As I said, I was together with Mr. Uno, acting only as an interpreter to interview Mr. LaRouche.
Even while we were interviewing him in the living room, I could clearly tell that several men who also sat near him were most likely body guards.
By the way, I had never met such a highly intellectual individual as Mr. LaRouche. He answered each of our questions precisely and completely without wasting any single word.
I remember that each word that came from the mouth of Mr. LaRouche was perfectly juxtaposed with other perfectly chosen words in his highly complex sentence structure. It was totally amazing.
In other words, even though each of his complete sentence was very long, it was flawless.
It was as if he were reading verbatim from a highly academic doctorate thesis.
I was just totally mesmerized by it. I had never met anyone who spoke so eloquently as Mr. LaRouche.
VICTOR MARCHETTI
The other person that I was very fortunate in visiting with in 1994 was a gentleman by the name of Victor Marchetti.
He lived in a very nice, cozy country-style home in a quiet wooded suburb area of Virginia.
He was quite jolly person, very kind and was full of humor.
Not knowing then who Mr. Marchetti was (again, I was acting only as an interpreter for Mr. Uno), I was quite impressed with the man.
His hospitality to us was so heart-warming.
I had no idea at that time that Mr. Marchetti was a well-known individual who had written a book called CIA: The Cult of Intelligence.
I was quite shocked later when Mr. Uno mentioned to me that Mr. Marchetti at one time was an assistant to the Deputy CIA Director.
As I stated before, even though (in retrospect), I may not totally agree with or subscribe to their political beliefs, I was truly impressed and even today I feel so fortunate to know that I had spent a few precious hours with these highly intelligent and intellectual personalities at their respective residences back in 1994.
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com
The Civilian Intelligence Network's focus has been on the study of how a segment of the population's "beliefs in UFOs" (as physical alien spacecraft) may have been manipulated (and in some cases, may even have been created) and taken advantage of by the U.S. intelligence community and by the military in certain counter intelligence programs and operations.
E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com
My visits with Lyndon LaRouche and Victor Marchetti in 1994
by Norio Hayakawa, July 20, 2009
Yesterday I was just thinking how fortunate I am to be able to tell my friends today that about 15 years ago I had a unique opportunity to personally visit two of the most fascinating individuals I have ever met in my life, even though, in retrospect, I may not totally agree or subscribe to their beliefs, politically or otherwise.
LYNDON LAROUCHE
If I recall, it was in 1994 that an author by the name of Masami Uno and I went to Virginia to interview a gentleman by the name of Lyndon LaRouche. At that time I had no idea who Lyndon LaRouche was. I was only accompanying Mr. Uno as an interpreter at that time.
I clearly remember that our driver drove us for miles and miles on loose gravelled roads and dirt roads in sparsely populated hilly region of Virginia.
Finally after miles and miles of driving in that hilly area, we reached what appeared to be a very large, isolated country-style wooden residence located on a hilltop.
When we arrived there, I recall that there were several men standing in front that looked to me like plain-clothes guards, protecting the residence.
From that moment on I got the feeling that Mr. LaRouche must have been a very controversial person.
As I said, I was together with Mr. Uno, acting only as an interpreter to interview Mr. LaRouche.
Even while we were interviewing him in the living room, I could clearly tell that several men who also sat near him were most likely body guards.
By the way, I had never met such a highly intellectual individual as Mr. LaRouche. He answered each of our questions precisely and completely without wasting any single word.
I remember that each word that came from the mouth of Mr. LaRouche was perfectly juxtaposed with other perfectly chosen words in his highly complex sentence structure. It was totally amazing.
In other words, even though each of his complete sentence was very long, it was flawless.
It was as if he were reading verbatim from a highly academic doctorate thesis.
I was just totally mesmerized by it. I had never met anyone who spoke so eloquently as Mr. LaRouche.
VICTOR MARCHETTI
The other person that I was very fortunate in visiting with in 1994 was a gentleman by the name of Victor Marchetti.
He lived in a very nice, cozy country-style home in a quiet wooded suburb area of Virginia.
He was quite jolly person, very kind and was full of humor.
Not knowing then who Mr. Marchetti was (again, I was acting only as an interpreter for Mr. Uno), I was quite impressed with the man.
His hospitality to us was so heart-warming.
I had no idea at that time that Mr. Marchetti was a well-known individual who had written a book called CIA: The Cult of Intelligence.
I was quite shocked later when Mr. Uno mentioned to me that Mr. Marchetti at one time was an assistant to the Deputy CIA Director.
As I stated before, even though (in retrospect), I may not totally agree with or subscribe to their political beliefs, I was truly impressed and even today I feel so fortunate to know that I had spent a few precious hours with these highly intelligent and intellectual personalities at their respective residences back in 1994.
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com
Friday, April 17, 2009
Dulce, New Mexico, Bio-warfare and Project Blue Beam
DULCE, NEW MEXICO, BIO-WARFARE AND PROJECT BLUE BEAM
by Norio Hayakawa
April 16, 2009
There seems to have been an allegation that the government, beginning in the mid 1970s and lasting till the early 1980s, may have conducted clandestine operations in and near Dulce, New Mexico involving experiments with bovine diseases, anthrax and other substances as part of biological warfare research.
See the following clip on cattle mutilations that took place in the Dulce area in the late 1970s (History Channel, March 25, 2009):
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0409/blue-beam.php
Was there a cover-up in Dulce, New Mexico?
Were there some illegal dumping or storage of toxic chemicals and other bio-hazardous materials in the nearby areas?
Did the 1967 underground atomic blast which took place 22 miles southwest of Dulce (Project Gasbuggy) produce slow but irreversible radiation leaks in the environment?
Did the U.S. government begin its periodic monitoring of the radiation levels of certain animals (some cows in the region) from the mid 1970s?
Is it possible that the government intentionally created a convenient cover story (i.e., the underground alien base scenario) to conceal those clandestine activities?
(Incidentally, the Four Corners area of New Mexico as well as the regions east of the Four Corners area have been known to be an area with high frequencies of sightings of strange flying objects as well as claims of paranormal activities, especially after World War II.
This remote region, filled with deep-rooted cultural and spiritual beliefs of the Native Americans such as the Jicarilla Apache Nation of Dulce, may have been an ideal and convenient location to conduct clandestine operations as far as the government was concerned.)
And if this were the case, was it possible for the government to have staged a series of fake UFO-type incidents in the area, utilizing high tech equipment such as holographic projection devices?
Former New Mexico State Patrol officer, Gabe Valdez, who was in charge of the Dulce area during those years, seems to think so. Recently he told me personally that he is convinced that appearances of UFOs were staged by the government through such devices.
I totally concur with Gabe Valdez on this matter.
I bring this up because early in 1994 I had corresponded with a Canadian investigative journalist by the name of Serge Monast who first informed me of NASA's alleged project called BLUE BEAM. (Unfortunately, I learned only two years later that Serge Monast passed away of a massive heart attack at his residence in Canada).
I hereby present my hypothesis that the government may have conducted a limited-scale, prototype BLUE BEAM operations in Dulce during the height of the cattle mutilations years and staged a series of UFO incidents in that area.
For more information on Dulce, New Mexico, please go to:
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0409/conference-ends.php
or
http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa
I can also be contacted by e-mail:
noriohayakawa@rocketmail.com
by Norio Hayakawa
April 16, 2009
There seems to have been an allegation that the government, beginning in the mid 1970s and lasting till the early 1980s, may have conducted clandestine operations in and near Dulce, New Mexico involving experiments with bovine diseases, anthrax and other substances as part of biological warfare research.
See the following clip on cattle mutilations that took place in the Dulce area in the late 1970s (History Channel, March 25, 2009):
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0409/blue-beam.php
Was there a cover-up in Dulce, New Mexico?
Were there some illegal dumping or storage of toxic chemicals and other bio-hazardous materials in the nearby areas?
Did the 1967 underground atomic blast which took place 22 miles southwest of Dulce (Project Gasbuggy) produce slow but irreversible radiation leaks in the environment?
Did the U.S. government begin its periodic monitoring of the radiation levels of certain animals (some cows in the region) from the mid 1970s?
Is it possible that the government intentionally created a convenient cover story (i.e., the underground alien base scenario) to conceal those clandestine activities?
(Incidentally, the Four Corners area of New Mexico as well as the regions east of the Four Corners area have been known to be an area with high frequencies of sightings of strange flying objects as well as claims of paranormal activities, especially after World War II.
This remote region, filled with deep-rooted cultural and spiritual beliefs of the Native Americans such as the Jicarilla Apache Nation of Dulce, may have been an ideal and convenient location to conduct clandestine operations as far as the government was concerned.)
And if this were the case, was it possible for the government to have staged a series of fake UFO-type incidents in the area, utilizing high tech equipment such as holographic projection devices?
Former New Mexico State Patrol officer, Gabe Valdez, who was in charge of the Dulce area during those years, seems to think so. Recently he told me personally that he is convinced that appearances of UFOs were staged by the government through such devices.
I totally concur with Gabe Valdez on this matter.
I bring this up because early in 1994 I had corresponded with a Canadian investigative journalist by the name of Serge Monast who first informed me of NASA's alleged project called BLUE BEAM. (Unfortunately, I learned only two years later that Serge Monast passed away of a massive heart attack at his residence in Canada).
I hereby present my hypothesis that the government may have conducted a limited-scale, prototype BLUE BEAM operations in Dulce during the height of the cattle mutilations years and staged a series of UFO incidents in that area.
For more information on Dulce, New Mexico, please go to:
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0409/conference-ends.php
or
http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa
I can also be contacted by e-mail:
noriohayakawa@rocketmail.com
Wednesday, April 1, 2009
The Dulce Base: Fact or Fiction? conference ends --A FULL REPORT!!
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DULCE BASE CONFERENCE ENDS: A FULL REPORT
by Norio Hayakawa
March 30, 2009
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0409/conference-ends.php
Dulce Base Conference Ends With More Questions Than Answers
DULCE, NEW MEXICO -- Close to 120 people showed up for the first "underground base" conference ever to be held in Dulce, New Mexico on Sunday, March 29.
The event made a rather tumultuous start at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn at 10 a.m.
By that time the entire bar lounge area began to be filled beyond capacity..
And by the time the first speaker (former Dulce ranch owner, Edmund Gomez) began his presentation, many people had to stand and wait in the adjacent restaurant area.
It was then that the Fire Department issued a warning saying that the conference must immediately be moved elsewhere. Halfway through the speaker's fascinating presentation, the Fire Department issued a stern second warning saying that the number of people inside the conference room far exceeded its capacity.
Panic then began to be felt by the event's organizer, Norio Hayakawa of Rio Rancho.
Hotel employees frantically made phone calls to find out if there were any other locations available for the conference to go on.
It was then that Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department, suggested to Hayakawa that the conference be moved to a civic hall inside a small shopping center across the street from the hotel.
With Velarde's swift assistance in making the arrangement, and after a short intermission, the entire Dulce Base: Fact or Fiction? conference and public forum finally resumed and continued the rest of the day at the new location.
As an interesting side note, on Sunday morning when it was still dark outside, many guests at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn were awakened shortly before 6 a.m. by a thunderous roar of blades of helicopters above.
Local residents nearby reported that there was a rare low flight of two military helicopters above Dulce.
In the afternoon session of the conference, two local residents also testified that they witnessed the military helicopters circling above Dulce and that they passed slowly above the hotel. They told Hayakawa that there are occasional appearances of military helicopters over the town but the flights were never as low as what they saw early Sunday morning.
As organizer and moderator of this conference, Hayakawa several times alluded to an allegation that the government, beginning in the early 1970s and lasting till the early 1980s, may have conducted clandestine operations in the area involving experiments with bovine diseases, anthrax and other substances as part of biological warfare research.
He also alluded to another allegation that there may also have been some illegal dumping or storage of toxic chemicals and other bio-hazardous materials in the nearby areas.
Hayakawa stated that he tends to support a theory that the government may have purposefully created some 'convenient' cover stories (underground alien base concept) to conceal those clandestine activities and may even have staged a series of fake 'UFO-type' incidents in the area, utilizing high tech equipment such as holographic projection devices.
However he also stated that he cannot deny any possibility that there may indeed be some unknown interdimensional phenomenon in the area which happens to be filled with fascinating cultural and spiritual beliefs of the Jicarilla Apache nation.
The speakers at the conference and their main points expressed were as follows:
Edmund Gomez, spokesman for the entire Gomez family who owned a large ranch in Dulce said that their ranch lost more than 17 cows during the height of cattle mutilations incidents and experienced substantial financial loss over the years. Gomez stated that gas masks were found near the mutilation sites and that specific cows were each tracked with phosphorescent markings a few days before the mutilations actually took place.. He is convinced that this was done by the government and that no aliens were involved. He asserted that the government was conducting some type of germ warfare experiments. He concluded by stating that there is definitely a governmental underground facility there.
Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department asserted that he has not located the base yet but it is an undeniable fact that there have been (and still are) many UFO sightings in the area. Velarde even suggested that he is willing to organize an escorted group expedition soon for the public to the top of the Archuleta Mesa if such a request is made in earnest. He surprised the attendees also by saying that another conference on this topic could even be held next time in the conference hall of the Police Department there. Hayakawa said that he may consider this offer.
Gabe Valdez, former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce area stated that he investigated numerous cattle mutilation cases in the Dulce area from the mid 1970s to the early 1980s. He declared that this has nothing to do with aliens but that there is something there that is too sensitive for discussion and refused to further divulge what that was.
Christopher O' Brien, researcher of paranormal activities in the San Luis Valley of Southern Colorado asserted that Dulce may be a diversion for what is more importantly taking place in the San Luis Valley just north of northern New Mexico.
Dr. Michael E. Salla, initiator of "exopolitics" and author of a book entitled EXPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICIES ON EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE expressed his belief that there is a joint US/alien underground bio-lab beneath the Archuleta Mesa and that this must be addressed as a serious human rights abuse issue.
Greg Bishop, author of PROJECT BETA, a book in which he describes in detail his investigations of the claims of an Albuquerque scientist by the name of Paul Bennewitz, said that Bennewitz was the initial source behind the rumors of the underground base in Dulce. Bishop asserted that Bennewitz was side tracked by an unofficial disinformation campaign to get him to look away from evidence of sensitive military projects going on in 1979 inside Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque. However, Bishop surprised everyone when he said at the end that he is now beginning to doubt his initial doubt about Dulce and concluded that there could indeed be something there.
Gabe Julian, former Dulce police officer who worked under the late Raleigh Tafoya, former Dulce Police Chief described his encounters with three metallic, oval-shaped object hovering at a tree-top level at a ranch in Dulce. He described how he was dispatched to the ranch house of a woman who claimed that small people with strange boxes emitting light were harassing her. Initially skeptical of what his radio dispatcher told him, he drove over to the area and was shaken up when he witnessed those hovering objects there.
Dennis Balthaser, a well-known UFO researcher from Roswell, New Mexico expressed his conviction that there is a US/alien joint biological laboratory and base under the Archuleta Mesa.
Keith Ealy, a researcher with a fascinating interpretation of Dulce as being a space time portal for interdimensionals amazed the audience with his close-up satellite imagery of Dulce Elementary School building.
He told the audience that the contours of the parking lot resemble an ancient stone scupture in Bolivia. He concluded that the Dulce area is filled with interdimentional phenomenon, a topic similarly shared by world famous researchers, Dr. Jacques Vallee and John Keel.
Here is an excellent report about the Dulce Base conference and its conclusion:
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m3d30-Dulce-underground-UFO-base-conference-ends Also, the Albuquerque Journal had a front page story today (March 30) about the conference. The headline which appeared at the bottom of the front page was "UFO Hunters Debate Underground Base". And on page 3 the headline for the continuing story was: "Secret Alien Base in N.M.?"
For more information, please e-mail:
noriohayakawa@gmail.com
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com
http://www.facebook.com/norio.hayakawa
The Civilian Intelligence Network's focus has been on the study of how a segment of the population's "beliefs in UFOs" (as physical alien spacecraft) and "beliefs in popular conspiracy theories" may have been manipulated (and in some cases, may even have been created) and taken advantage of by the U.S. intelligence community and by the military in certain counter intelligence propaganda and operations.
E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com
DULCE BASE CONFERENCE ENDS: A FULL REPORT
by Norio Hayakawa
March 30, 2009
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0409/conference-ends.php
Dulce Base Conference Ends With More Questions Than Answers
DULCE, NEW MEXICO -- Close to 120 people showed up for the first "underground base" conference ever to be held in Dulce, New Mexico on Sunday, March 29.
The event made a rather tumultuous start at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn at 10 a.m.
By that time the entire bar lounge area began to be filled beyond capacity..
And by the time the first speaker (former Dulce ranch owner, Edmund Gomez) began his presentation, many people had to stand and wait in the adjacent restaurant area.
It was then that the Fire Department issued a warning saying that the conference must immediately be moved elsewhere. Halfway through the speaker's fascinating presentation, the Fire Department issued a stern second warning saying that the number of people inside the conference room far exceeded its capacity.
Panic then began to be felt by the event's organizer, Norio Hayakawa of Rio Rancho.
Hotel employees frantically made phone calls to find out if there were any other locations available for the conference to go on.
It was then that Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department, suggested to Hayakawa that the conference be moved to a civic hall inside a small shopping center across the street from the hotel.
With Velarde's swift assistance in making the arrangement, and after a short intermission, the entire Dulce Base: Fact or Fiction? conference and public forum finally resumed and continued the rest of the day at the new location.
As an interesting side note, on Sunday morning when it was still dark outside, many guests at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn were awakened shortly before 6 a.m. by a thunderous roar of blades of helicopters above.
Local residents nearby reported that there was a rare low flight of two military helicopters above Dulce.
In the afternoon session of the conference, two local residents also testified that they witnessed the military helicopters circling above Dulce and that they passed slowly above the hotel. They told Hayakawa that there are occasional appearances of military helicopters over the town but the flights were never as low as what they saw early Sunday morning.
As organizer and moderator of this conference, Hayakawa several times alluded to an allegation that the government, beginning in the early 1970s and lasting till the early 1980s, may have conducted clandestine operations in the area involving experiments with bovine diseases, anthrax and other substances as part of biological warfare research.
He also alluded to another allegation that there may also have been some illegal dumping or storage of toxic chemicals and other bio-hazardous materials in the nearby areas.
Hayakawa stated that he tends to support a theory that the government may have purposefully created some 'convenient' cover stories (underground alien base concept) to conceal those clandestine activities and may even have staged a series of fake 'UFO-type' incidents in the area, utilizing high tech equipment such as holographic projection devices.
However he also stated that he cannot deny any possibility that there may indeed be some unknown interdimensional phenomenon in the area which happens to be filled with fascinating cultural and spiritual beliefs of the Jicarilla Apache nation.
The speakers at the conference and their main points expressed were as follows:
Edmund Gomez, spokesman for the entire Gomez family who owned a large ranch in Dulce said that their ranch lost more than 17 cows during the height of cattle mutilations incidents and experienced substantial financial loss over the years. Gomez stated that gas masks were found near the mutilation sites and that specific cows were each tracked with phosphorescent markings a few days before the mutilations actually took place.. He is convinced that this was done by the government and that no aliens were involved. He asserted that the government was conducting some type of germ warfare experiments. He concluded by stating that there is definitely a governmental underground facility there.
Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department asserted that he has not located the base yet but it is an undeniable fact that there have been (and still are) many UFO sightings in the area. Velarde even suggested that he is willing to organize an escorted group expedition soon for the public to the top of the Archuleta Mesa if such a request is made in earnest. He surprised the attendees also by saying that another conference on this topic could even be held next time in the conference hall of the Police Department there. Hayakawa said that he may consider this offer.
Gabe Valdez, former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce area stated that he investigated numerous cattle mutilation cases in the Dulce area from the mid 1970s to the early 1980s. He declared that this has nothing to do with aliens but that there is something there that is too sensitive for discussion and refused to further divulge what that was.
Christopher O' Brien, researcher of paranormal activities in the San Luis Valley of Southern Colorado asserted that Dulce may be a diversion for what is more importantly taking place in the San Luis Valley just north of northern New Mexico.
Dr. Michael E. Salla, initiator of "exopolitics" and author of a book entitled EXPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICIES ON EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE expressed his belief that there is a joint US/alien underground bio-lab beneath the Archuleta Mesa and that this must be addressed as a serious human rights abuse issue.
Greg Bishop, author of PROJECT BETA, a book in which he describes in detail his investigations of the claims of an Albuquerque scientist by the name of Paul Bennewitz, said that Bennewitz was the initial source behind the rumors of the underground base in Dulce. Bishop asserted that Bennewitz was side tracked by an unofficial disinformation campaign to get him to look away from evidence of sensitive military projects going on in 1979 inside Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque. However, Bishop surprised everyone when he said at the end that he is now beginning to doubt his initial doubt about Dulce and concluded that there could indeed be something there.
Gabe Julian, former Dulce police officer who worked under the late Raleigh Tafoya, former Dulce Police Chief described his encounters with three metallic, oval-shaped object hovering at a tree-top level at a ranch in Dulce. He described how he was dispatched to the ranch house of a woman who claimed that small people with strange boxes emitting light were harassing her. Initially skeptical of what his radio dispatcher told him, he drove over to the area and was shaken up when he witnessed those hovering objects there.
Dennis Balthaser, a well-known UFO researcher from Roswell, New Mexico expressed his conviction that there is a US/alien joint biological laboratory and base under the Archuleta Mesa.
Keith Ealy, a researcher with a fascinating interpretation of Dulce as being a space time portal for interdimensionals amazed the audience with his close-up satellite imagery of Dulce Elementary School building.
He told the audience that the contours of the parking lot resemble an ancient stone scupture in Bolivia. He concluded that the Dulce area is filled with interdimentional phenomenon, a topic similarly shared by world famous researchers, Dr. Jacques Vallee and John Keel.
Here is an excellent report about the Dulce Base conference and its conclusion:
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m3d30-Dulce-underground-UFO-base-conference-ends Also, the Albuquerque Journal had a front page story today (March 30) about the conference. The headline which appeared at the bottom of the front page was "UFO Hunters Debate Underground Base". And on page 3 the headline for the continuing story was: "Secret Alien Base in N.M.?"
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Friday, October 31, 2008
The strange behavior of Bob Lazar (alleged former Area 51 "scientist")
from Norio Hayakawa at Civilian Intelligence Central
THE STRANGE BEHAVIOR OF ROB LAZAR (alleged former Area 51 "scientist")
by Norio Hayakawa, May 5, 2006
I am not here to defend nor to put Bob Lazar down. The fact is that Bob Lazar has been categorized as a fraud by most so-called UFO researchers and the public-at-large, although there are still some who hold on to the belief that Bob Lazar was who he said he was and that he did everything that he claimed.
One person that still totally and adamantly supports Bob Lazar's claims is KLAS-TV Eyewitness News anchorman, George Knapp, and of course, Bob's friend, Las Vegas real estate appraiser, Gene Huff.
Is Bob Lazar a total fraud? I am still not sure on this. I still do have some unanswered questions. As for Bob Lazar's timeline, the whole world had already been familiar with Tom Mahood's timeline of Lazar, which he published in 1994.
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/lazar/timeline.htm
However, not everyone is familiar with Gene Huff's 1995 rebuttal of Tom Mahood's timeline of Lazar. But, thanks to Gary Sellani, Gene Huff's 1995 rebuttal of Tom Mahood's timeline was once again posted on the dreamlandresort.com recently.
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/genehuff.htm
As I said above, personally, I still have some unanswered questions on Bob Lazar:
It was on February 21, 1990 that a crew of Nippon Television Network (NTV) of Japan and I (total of 7) had an opportunity to visit and interview Bob Lazar at his residence in Las Vegas. This was made possible through Bob's friend, real estate appraiser, Gene Huff.We arrived at Bob's residence around 11 a.m., or so, to the best of my recollection. They took us to the living room, which at that time did not seem to me to be fully furnished and "lived".
They showed us Bob's study room, which also did not seem to me to be fully furnished. Yes, there were a few books on physics on the bookshelf and there were computers on his desk.
In any case, the interview was conducted by a writer from a magazine and I was simply there as an interpreter.
The interview lasted about two hours. When we arrived at his house, there were about 5 or 6 men in the house. At first I thought they were simply Bob's friends. But later on I noticed something unusual about some of those men. It seemed that throughout the interview, whether in the living room or in Bob's study room, two men were constantly on each side of Bob. One of them seemed to have a rectangular black communications equipment with him. Perhaps it could have been a cellphone (although this was in 1990).
When we moved to the kitchen area, those two men also moved alongside Bob. When we moved to Bob's study room, those men also moved together with Bob. So we asked Bob, "who are these men?" Bob simply said that, "don't worry, these are just friends". Perhaps this was nothing. But I just thought to bring this up, because that's the one thing throughout the interview that impressed me the most.
What do I think of Bob? I still cannot come to a conclusion. In any case, later that Wednesday afternoon, the TV crew and I drove about 2 hours from Las Vegas and reached the location where Bob had said we would see a test flight of a object arising over the Groom Mountains.
And, indeed, immediately after sundown and after haveing set up the TV cameras, etc. on the dirt road (right next to Hwy 375), Lord, behold!!, around 6:45 p.m. we observed a bright orangish light appearing over the Groom Mountains and made some interesting maneuvers.
I was quite impressed at that time. Around 7:15 p.m., another light came up. In any case, this was the beginning of my real interest in Area 51, before Area 51 was even a household name at that time.
As the years went by, I came to dismiss my initial excitement about those sightings. I came to the conclusion that those lights were a test-flying of our aircraft (such as prototypes of newer black triangular craft) (or possibly, the initial phases of test-flights of UAVs, or "unmanned aerial vehicles", or even "unmanned combat aerial vehicles" (UCAVs), or other remotely-controlled platforms.
As the years went by, I also began to have some questions regarding Bob Lazar. A few years later, I did see a copy of Bob Lazar's paycheck. It wasn't much. Something like about $958.00. Then I found out that Bob Lazar's Social Security Number did not belong to Bob Lazar but to a lady in New York. Also, I began to have doubts on Bob Lazar for his not keeping the promise that he would fly to Japan in early March of 1990 to appear live on the 2-hour Japanese TV program on Area 51. I was waiting for his flight from Vegas to Los Angeles where I was to meet him. He never showed up. Later on, the producer of the TV program said that he got an urgent call from Bob that Bob was not allowed to go to Japan to appear on that program. This was a total disappointment.
Also, later on, I was informed that Bob had kept the honorarium which was a guarantee that he would appear on the program live in Japan. Nevertheless, in mid March of 1990, a two-hour prime time TV Special on Area 51 was aired in Japan (without the live appearance portion of the program) and was seen by millions and millions of people there, when Area 51 wasn't even known by a lot of the American public.
What do I think of Bob Lazar? Like I said, I still cannot conclusively dismiss him totally. He is a genius in science and technology, no doubt about that. The whole world, by now, also knows that Bob Lazar moved to New Mexico in the Sandia Mountains, next to Albuquerque. (P.S. He left Albuquerque in 2008 and moved to Michigan).
He operates his business, United Nuclear, http://www.unitednuclear.com
It is my understanding that he still does some contract work occasionally for various defense-related sub-contractors (not the direct contractors). His present activities also include United Nuclear, his main business.
Was Bob Lazar part of a disinformation campaign? Was he a witting participant or was he manipulated unwittingly in the disinformation ploy? I do not know.
What I also know is that Bob Lazar had a huge debt while he worked in New Mexico, prior to moving in to Nevada. What I also know is that the Air Force did benefit from the belief by a segment of the population (and a push by a segment of the population to promote this theory) that Area 51 was somehow associated with extraterrestrial technology. It definitely helped in bringing about the "laughter curtain" to Area 51, which was needed as a "cover story".
It is my understanding that occasionally, "cover stories" are created by defense contractors during certain projects to draw attention away from or to bring up a "laughter curtain" to discret researchers' scrutiny of such projects. But again, I could be wrong.
STRANGE BEHAVIOR OF BOB LAZAR PART II
In 1991, my former colleague, Gary Schultz and I organized an "Ultimate UFO Seminar" in the Little A-le-Inn (at that time known as Rachel's Bar and Grill). Despite little prior notice on this event, that memorable evening, the entire inn was filled with people. It was standing room only. There weren't any space left even to walk around. The only speakers were Gary Schultz and myself. We did not invite any particular guests, but we were surprised to see Lincoln County Sheriff himself, Dahl Bradfield, seated inside. We were also astonished to see William Cooper (who, later on became a rabble-rousing militiaman and was killed a few years ago in Arizona) seated also, silently listening to our presentation. There was Anthony J. Hilder (a rabble-rousing former talk show host in Alaska) in the crowd. We also noticed that Sean Morton (an unknown enthusiast at that time who later on became a well-known self-professed "prophet" through his appearances on the wacky Art Bell show) was seated. (I am ashamed to say that I myself was a rabble-rouser at that time who also had appeared on the wacky Art Bell radio show a few times!!).
As Gary and I continued with our speech, we were surprised to see John Lear (son of the inventor of the Lear Jet) enter the room. A little later, the door opened again and here comes George Knapp, KLAS-TV news anchorman. Then about 30 minutes later, we were astonished to see Bob Lazar enter the room, together with his girlfriend. There was no space left for them to be seated.
We never expected these individuals to be there. Literally, the entire Little A-le-Inn was filled with so many so-called UFO "luminaries", all in one place. There must have been at least 95 to 110 people there.
Bob Lazar and his girlfriend stood in the kitchen, initially appearing to be looking towards us and listening to our presentations. But, instead, what we noticed was that Bob Lazar was continually laughing at Gary Schultz while he was giving the serious lecture. It seemed as if Lazar was mocking the entire Area 51/S-4 topic as if he himself didn't believe in it. I simply could not understand the reaction of Bob Lazar. There may be nothing to this, but I just felt that his behavior was a little odd.
Two years later, in 1993, again Gary Schultz and I organized a much larger "Ultimate UFO Seminar" at the same place. However, this time we anticipated a much larger crowd so we decided to have it outside during the daytime, right next to the Little A-le-Inn. I believe it was in March. By this time, Gary Schultz became more acquainted with Bob Lazar and Bob Lazar agreed to come to speak.
We requested Joe Travis of the Little A-le-Inn to set up 200 chairs outside. Joe said he will take care of it. When both Gary and I arrived at the Little A-le-Inn the day of the gatheirng, we were totally astonished to see a huge military tent right next to the Inn!
What was strange was that we didn't expect such a large military tent to be there. When we asked Joe Travis how he got that tent, he simply said that he borrowed the tent from the base (i.e., Area 51). I wasn't aware then that Joe Travis had a working relationship with Area 51!! (the fact of which he really didn't talk too much). The base definitely knew that we would be having a large gathering in Rachel.
(In recent times, it is my understanding that the new security cameras at the present day Little A-le-Inn were installed by military contractors, per gratis or not, I am not sure, although Pat Travis said that the cameras are not connected to anything beyond her operation. As you know, it is assumed that there is a fixed camera on Bald Mountain pointing at the Little A-le-Inn's parking lot).
In any case, there were almost 200 people (from all over the U.S. and even some from Canada) at the seminar/gathering. Remember, this was in 1993. Among the audience was Glenn Campbell, a computer specialist who just moved to Nevada from the East Coast. Glenn Campbell, later on, became an Area 51 activist who was instrumental in publicizing the existence of Area 51 base to a much wider segment of society. By the way, when Bob Lazar arrived at the seminar (he came with a couple of ladies), we were surprised to see his Corvette which had a license plate "MJ-12". It was probably his mockery of the alleged existence of MJ-12. That memorable event was covered by a Los Angeles Times reporter. That was to be Bob Lazar's last public appearance.
P.S.
According to an alleged W-2 of Bob Lazar (found on the Internet), the SSN indicated on the form does not belong to Bob Lazar but to a lady from New York whose first name was Carol and last name Strong:
http://www.menphis75.com/images/area51/boblazar2.jpg
Whether that "Carol" had anything do do with Bob Lazar's first wife, Carol, I do not know for sure. Perhaps it was a coincidence that her last name was also Strong.
Everybody knows that Bob Lazar's first wife, Carol Nadine Strong, committed suicide in Las Vegas in 1986.
Also, it is important to understand that by 1986, Bob Lazar was heavily in debt from several banks in Los Alamos, NM, as well as from other financial institutions.
And now, back to Norio Hayakawa's main website:
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com
THE STRANGE BEHAVIOR OF ROB LAZAR (alleged former Area 51 "scientist")
by Norio Hayakawa, May 5, 2006
I am not here to defend nor to put Bob Lazar down. The fact is that Bob Lazar has been categorized as a fraud by most so-called UFO researchers and the public-at-large, although there are still some who hold on to the belief that Bob Lazar was who he said he was and that he did everything that he claimed.
One person that still totally and adamantly supports Bob Lazar's claims is KLAS-TV Eyewitness News anchorman, George Knapp, and of course, Bob's friend, Las Vegas real estate appraiser, Gene Huff.
Is Bob Lazar a total fraud? I am still not sure on this. I still do have some unanswered questions. As for Bob Lazar's timeline, the whole world had already been familiar with Tom Mahood's timeline of Lazar, which he published in 1994.
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/area51/lazar/timeline.htm
However, not everyone is familiar with Gene Huff's 1995 rebuttal of Tom Mahood's timeline of Lazar. But, thanks to Gary Sellani, Gene Huff's 1995 rebuttal of Tom Mahood's timeline was once again posted on the dreamlandresort.com recently.
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/genehuff.htm
As I said above, personally, I still have some unanswered questions on Bob Lazar:
It was on February 21, 1990 that a crew of Nippon Television Network (NTV) of Japan and I (total of 7) had an opportunity to visit and interview Bob Lazar at his residence in Las Vegas. This was made possible through Bob's friend, real estate appraiser, Gene Huff.We arrived at Bob's residence around 11 a.m., or so, to the best of my recollection. They took us to the living room, which at that time did not seem to me to be fully furnished and "lived".
They showed us Bob's study room, which also did not seem to me to be fully furnished. Yes, there were a few books on physics on the bookshelf and there were computers on his desk.
In any case, the interview was conducted by a writer from a magazine and I was simply there as an interpreter.
The interview lasted about two hours. When we arrived at his house, there were about 5 or 6 men in the house. At first I thought they were simply Bob's friends. But later on I noticed something unusual about some of those men. It seemed that throughout the interview, whether in the living room or in Bob's study room, two men were constantly on each side of Bob. One of them seemed to have a rectangular black communications equipment with him. Perhaps it could have been a cellphone (although this was in 1990).
When we moved to the kitchen area, those two men also moved alongside Bob. When we moved to Bob's study room, those men also moved together with Bob. So we asked Bob, "who are these men?" Bob simply said that, "don't worry, these are just friends". Perhaps this was nothing. But I just thought to bring this up, because that's the one thing throughout the interview that impressed me the most.
What do I think of Bob? I still cannot come to a conclusion. In any case, later that Wednesday afternoon, the TV crew and I drove about 2 hours from Las Vegas and reached the location where Bob had said we would see a test flight of a object arising over the Groom Mountains.
And, indeed, immediately after sundown and after haveing set up the TV cameras, etc. on the dirt road (right next to Hwy 375), Lord, behold!!, around 6:45 p.m. we observed a bright orangish light appearing over the Groom Mountains and made some interesting maneuvers.
I was quite impressed at that time. Around 7:15 p.m., another light came up. In any case, this was the beginning of my real interest in Area 51, before Area 51 was even a household name at that time.
As the years went by, I came to dismiss my initial excitement about those sightings. I came to the conclusion that those lights were a test-flying of our aircraft (such as prototypes of newer black triangular craft) (or possibly, the initial phases of test-flights of UAVs, or "unmanned aerial vehicles", or even "unmanned combat aerial vehicles" (UCAVs), or other remotely-controlled platforms.
As the years went by, I also began to have some questions regarding Bob Lazar. A few years later, I did see a copy of Bob Lazar's paycheck. It wasn't much. Something like about $958.00. Then I found out that Bob Lazar's Social Security Number did not belong to Bob Lazar but to a lady in New York. Also, I began to have doubts on Bob Lazar for his not keeping the promise that he would fly to Japan in early March of 1990 to appear live on the 2-hour Japanese TV program on Area 51. I was waiting for his flight from Vegas to Los Angeles where I was to meet him. He never showed up. Later on, the producer of the TV program said that he got an urgent call from Bob that Bob was not allowed to go to Japan to appear on that program. This was a total disappointment.
Also, later on, I was informed that Bob had kept the honorarium which was a guarantee that he would appear on the program live in Japan. Nevertheless, in mid March of 1990, a two-hour prime time TV Special on Area 51 was aired in Japan (without the live appearance portion of the program) and was seen by millions and millions of people there, when Area 51 wasn't even known by a lot of the American public.
What do I think of Bob Lazar? Like I said, I still cannot conclusively dismiss him totally. He is a genius in science and technology, no doubt about that. The whole world, by now, also knows that Bob Lazar moved to New Mexico in the Sandia Mountains, next to Albuquerque. (P.S. He left Albuquerque in 2008 and moved to Michigan).
He operates his business, United Nuclear, http://www.unitednuclear.com
It is my understanding that he still does some contract work occasionally for various defense-related sub-contractors (not the direct contractors). His present activities also include United Nuclear, his main business.
Was Bob Lazar part of a disinformation campaign? Was he a witting participant or was he manipulated unwittingly in the disinformation ploy? I do not know.
What I also know is that Bob Lazar had a huge debt while he worked in New Mexico, prior to moving in to Nevada. What I also know is that the Air Force did benefit from the belief by a segment of the population (and a push by a segment of the population to promote this theory) that Area 51 was somehow associated with extraterrestrial technology. It definitely helped in bringing about the "laughter curtain" to Area 51, which was needed as a "cover story".
It is my understanding that occasionally, "cover stories" are created by defense contractors during certain projects to draw attention away from or to bring up a "laughter curtain" to discret researchers' scrutiny of such projects. But again, I could be wrong.
STRANGE BEHAVIOR OF BOB LAZAR PART II
In 1991, my former colleague, Gary Schultz and I organized an "Ultimate UFO Seminar" in the Little A-le-Inn (at that time known as Rachel's Bar and Grill). Despite little prior notice on this event, that memorable evening, the entire inn was filled with people. It was standing room only. There weren't any space left even to walk around. The only speakers were Gary Schultz and myself. We did not invite any particular guests, but we were surprised to see Lincoln County Sheriff himself, Dahl Bradfield, seated inside. We were also astonished to see William Cooper (who, later on became a rabble-rousing militiaman and was killed a few years ago in Arizona) seated also, silently listening to our presentation. There was Anthony J. Hilder (a rabble-rousing former talk show host in Alaska) in the crowd. We also noticed that Sean Morton (an unknown enthusiast at that time who later on became a well-known self-professed "prophet" through his appearances on the wacky Art Bell show) was seated. (I am ashamed to say that I myself was a rabble-rouser at that time who also had appeared on the wacky Art Bell radio show a few times!!).
As Gary and I continued with our speech, we were surprised to see John Lear (son of the inventor of the Lear Jet) enter the room. A little later, the door opened again and here comes George Knapp, KLAS-TV news anchorman. Then about 30 minutes later, we were astonished to see Bob Lazar enter the room, together with his girlfriend. There was no space left for them to be seated.
We never expected these individuals to be there. Literally, the entire Little A-le-Inn was filled with so many so-called UFO "luminaries", all in one place. There must have been at least 95 to 110 people there.
Bob Lazar and his girlfriend stood in the kitchen, initially appearing to be looking towards us and listening to our presentations. But, instead, what we noticed was that Bob Lazar was continually laughing at Gary Schultz while he was giving the serious lecture. It seemed as if Lazar was mocking the entire Area 51/S-4 topic as if he himself didn't believe in it. I simply could not understand the reaction of Bob Lazar. There may be nothing to this, but I just felt that his behavior was a little odd.
Two years later, in 1993, again Gary Schultz and I organized a much larger "Ultimate UFO Seminar" at the same place. However, this time we anticipated a much larger crowd so we decided to have it outside during the daytime, right next to the Little A-le-Inn. I believe it was in March. By this time, Gary Schultz became more acquainted with Bob Lazar and Bob Lazar agreed to come to speak.
We requested Joe Travis of the Little A-le-Inn to set up 200 chairs outside. Joe said he will take care of it. When both Gary and I arrived at the Little A-le-Inn the day of the gatheirng, we were totally astonished to see a huge military tent right next to the Inn!
What was strange was that we didn't expect such a large military tent to be there. When we asked Joe Travis how he got that tent, he simply said that he borrowed the tent from the base (i.e., Area 51). I wasn't aware then that Joe Travis had a working relationship with Area 51!! (the fact of which he really didn't talk too much). The base definitely knew that we would be having a large gathering in Rachel.
(In recent times, it is my understanding that the new security cameras at the present day Little A-le-Inn were installed by military contractors, per gratis or not, I am not sure, although Pat Travis said that the cameras are not connected to anything beyond her operation. As you know, it is assumed that there is a fixed camera on Bald Mountain pointing at the Little A-le-Inn's parking lot).
In any case, there were almost 200 people (from all over the U.S. and even some from Canada) at the seminar/gathering. Remember, this was in 1993. Among the audience was Glenn Campbell, a computer specialist who just moved to Nevada from the East Coast. Glenn Campbell, later on, became an Area 51 activist who was instrumental in publicizing the existence of Area 51 base to a much wider segment of society. By the way, when Bob Lazar arrived at the seminar (he came with a couple of ladies), we were surprised to see his Corvette which had a license plate "MJ-12". It was probably his mockery of the alleged existence of MJ-12. That memorable event was covered by a Los Angeles Times reporter. That was to be Bob Lazar's last public appearance.
P.S.
According to an alleged W-2 of Bob Lazar (found on the Internet), the SSN indicated on the form does not belong to Bob Lazar but to a lady from New York whose first name was Carol and last name Strong:
http://www.menphis75.com/images/area51/boblazar2.jpg
Whether that "Carol" had anything do do with Bob Lazar's first wife, Carol, I do not know for sure. Perhaps it was a coincidence that her last name was also Strong.
Everybody knows that Bob Lazar's first wife, Carol Nadine Strong, committed suicide in Las Vegas in 1986.
Also, it is important to understand that by 1986, Bob Lazar was heavily in debt from several banks in Los Alamos, NM, as well as from other financial institutions.
And now, back to Norio Hayakawa's main website:
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com
A few words on the late William "Bill" Cooper
from Norio Hayakawa at Civilian Intelligence Central
MY PERSONAL VIEW OF THE LATE WILLIAM "BILL" COOPER
by Norio Hayakawa
October 31, 2008
My association with Milton William "Bill" Cooper goes back to the summer of 1989 when I first met him in West Los Angeles and my interaction with him went on intermittently throughout the mid 90's. The last time I was next to him was when he was in a closed casket at his funeral service in Arizona. It was quite an emotional day for me.
It was on a typical, mild but clear Arizona morning of November 15, 2001 when a former conspiracy talk radio host and video producer, Anthony J. Hilder and myself, both from Los Angeles and another conspiracy talk show host from Phoenix, Erskine, arrived at the Community Presbyterian Church of a small country town of Springerville, located on a high plateau in Eastern Arizona.
It was around 8:30 a.m. and there was just a sprinkling of people in the foyer of the church. We all drove in to this sleepy country town with my van to attend the funeral service for the late Bill Cooper who was shot to death on November 6, 2001 by Apache County Sheriff deputies in a confrontation that took place in front of Bill's home atop a hill in the nearby town of Eagar. One deputy was seriously injured in that confrontation when Bill fired a round to his head.
We had expected more attendees to the service which was to start at 9:00 a.m. Soon the closed casket of Bill arrived and was set up in the front in the sanctuary. It was not a formal religious service. Before the service started, we had a briefing by the officiating person. By the time the service started, there were around 85 persons seated in the pews. Some of the attendees were from the Midwestern states, some were from the East Coast. A few, such as us, were from California. Others were from other Southwestern states and the rest were local folks.
It was a simple, informal service with a prayer in the beginning, followed by a short biography of Bill, followed by Eulogies and Remembrances by speakers and a final prayer, followed by the recessional of the casket from the sanctuary and a car processional to the Springerville Town Cemetery a few miles away.
There were a total of 8 speakers at the service, including Anthony J. Hilder and myself. When my turn came, here is what I said from the podium:
"The world will always remember Bill Cooper as an egotistic, paranoia monger. Indeed, to many he was perhaps an arrogant, obnoxious, choleric, self-aggrandizing, rude, vitriolic and vengeful person. Perhaps he was all of this and much more. But no matter how negative his personality is described to be, we must admit the fact that he did indeed make a tremendous impact among hundreds, if not, thousands of his listeners, whether in front of his astounded lecture audiences or through his "shocking" radio programs.
I first met Bill back in 1989 in West L.A. when he was just an unknown speaker and where he spoke for the first time at a gathering called UFORUM in which I was a frequent attendee. I was quite stunned then with his hypothesis on the "Secret Government". It really sounded so fresh at that time because unlike most UFO speakers of that time, he convincingly injected "UFOs" to a "one-world government" right-wing flavored conspiracy theory.
I was so impacted by his hypothesis that I soon became a volunteer and helped him organize his first successful major public appearance that same year, which was held at Hollywood High School Auditorium, which was attended by well over 800 people. That became the historic launching pad for his national lecture circuit. And the rest is history.
Later, in December of that year, I even attended the controversial National MUFON Conference held in Las Vegas in which Bill Cooper was perhaps the most controversial speaker aside from John Lear and Bill Moore and others.
The Bill Cooper of then was very much into "ufology". Even in 1991, when Gary Schultz and I organized the first Ultimate Seminar in Rachel, Nevada ( 25 miles north of Area 51 ), we were surprised to see Bill Cooper as an attendee.
I remember quite well when Gary and I had to lead the people to the White Sides hill for a climb to view the base (Area 51), Bill Cooper could not make the climb due to his leg and he was even cracking up jokes about it. He stayed at the foothill of White Sides, without being able to see the facility.
In 1993 Bill Cooper, Eustace Mullins, Jordan Maxwell, Vladmir Terziski, Dr. Robert Strecker, Anthony Hilder and myself, together with a couple of other conspiracy speakers were all invited to speak at the First International Conference on Global Deception to be held in the famous Wembley Arena in London. Because of concerns for security due to the controversial nature of the conference, some of us decided not to travel to England. Nevertheless, Bill Cooper had the guts to go and speak at the conference. I admired him for that.
By 1993 I had completely abandoned the so-called "extraterrestrial hypothesis" of the origins of the UFO phenomena and began to promote the hypothesis that the entire UFO phenomena was a brilliantly concocted, staged and manipulated man-made deception by elitists to bring about certain agendas.
After this, for a few years I completely disassociated myself with Ufology.
I was quite surprised to learn that, later on, Bill Cooper also began to depart from "ufology" and was also beginning to hypothesize that "UFOs" had nothing to do with "aliens" but was a manipulation of the government to bring about fear to create a one-world government.
Cooper began to admit that he most likely had been shown disinformation by the government while he was in military service.
On this point, I truly commended Cooper for his admission. Cooper began to state that he was no longer a "ufologist". It was Cooper who coined the term "ufoology" and I also commended him for it. We both totally departed from "ufoology".
Here was Bill Cooper at his best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnp1kkH5Ldg
(As I stated, I also departed from "Ufology", although for me it was a temporary departure, since a couple of years later I began to take an interest in the role of "beliefs" among a segment of the population entrenched in America's UFO subculture......moreover, I also began to acknowledge my mistake in generalizing the entire UFO phenomenon as a briliantly concocted manipulation by the government........I should only have stated that "so far we have come up with not a single, solid, tangible, irrefutable publicly acknowledged evidence whatsoever that we have ever been, or are being, visited by physical extraterrestrial craft piloted or maneuvered by physical extraterrestrial aliens.)
After his departure from what he called "Ufoology", Bill Cooper became more involved in another area of his interest.
However, throughout all this, he kept his tendency to label anyone that didn't agree with him as "agents of CIA", etc. After moving to Arizona, he shifted his focus to the Patriot Movement (the Militia Movement), although in reality he was just a one-man militia, simply promoting his view on the Constitutional Republic through his radio programs to thousands of listeners. This was immediately after the Oklahoma Bombing. I, too, became involved in the militia movement.
I went to listen to Mark Koernke of the Michigan Militia in a large Conspiracy Conference in Palm Springs. I also became an acquaintance of Ted Gunderson, former FBI Special Agent-in-charge of Los Angeles who also became sympathetic to the militia movement. I also began to correspond with the Militia of Montana.
Besides his other numerous negative traits, Bill had an uncontrollable alcoholic problem.
But despite his eccentric, obnoxious personality, deep in his heart I believe that he wanted to be a good person. Unfortunately he brought an end to his tumultuous life by his self-fulfilling prophecy through his violent act. My heart goes out to Annie and the children. (My heart also goes out to the young deputy who was seriously injured in that confrontation. Bill will have to answer to God for that.) May God forgive and bless the soul of one Milton William "Bill" Cooper."
This is how I ended my "Remembrances" of Bill Cooper at his funeral. After the service, we all proceeded in a car processional to the cemetery, under the watchful eyes of several patrol cars, County Sheriff's vehicles and other governmental agency vehicles. It was just before noon that the casket of Bill Cooper was laid to rest at the graveside. The casket was then lowered into the ground. It was definitely one of the most emotional moments of my 20 years of being involved with "conspiratology".
Do I think that Bill Cooper was an unwitting participant in "disiformation"? I tend to lean towards that possibility. However, it is very possible that he became aware that he may have been drawn into such a situation.
Was Bill Cooper slowly drawn into delusional paranoia and may have been manipulated by certain individuals, operatives or certain groups with certain agendas, governmental or not? I do not know.
By the time that his now "classic" book, BEHOLD A PALE HORSE, came out and began to receive attention, ironically, he was just beginning to disassociate himself with much of what he wrote, especially when it came to the subject of UFOs.
BEHOLD A PALE HORSE was basically a compilation of his past military service history, his original speech THE SECRET GOVERNMENT, some obscure and outdated, unreliable information and articles provided by others regarding Area 51 and mixed in with verbatim copying of THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION, which many researchers had always regarded to be a fraud, to begin with.
I reiterate. I do not believe that Bill Cooper was a "paid" disinformant at all. I tend to believe that he was simply drawn into and manipulated into being an unwitting participant in this strange world of "conspiratology".
For additional reference on William "Bill" Cooper, please check this site:
http://billcooperdisinfo.webs.com/
And now, back to Norio Hayakawa's main website:
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com
MY PERSONAL VIEW OF THE LATE WILLIAM "BILL" COOPER
by Norio Hayakawa
October 31, 2008
My association with Milton William "Bill" Cooper goes back to the summer of 1989 when I first met him in West Los Angeles and my interaction with him went on intermittently throughout the mid 90's. The last time I was next to him was when he was in a closed casket at his funeral service in Arizona. It was quite an emotional day for me.
It was on a typical, mild but clear Arizona morning of November 15, 2001 when a former conspiracy talk radio host and video producer, Anthony J. Hilder and myself, both from Los Angeles and another conspiracy talk show host from Phoenix, Erskine, arrived at the Community Presbyterian Church of a small country town of Springerville, located on a high plateau in Eastern Arizona.
It was around 8:30 a.m. and there was just a sprinkling of people in the foyer of the church. We all drove in to this sleepy country town with my van to attend the funeral service for the late Bill Cooper who was shot to death on November 6, 2001 by Apache County Sheriff deputies in a confrontation that took place in front of Bill's home atop a hill in the nearby town of Eagar. One deputy was seriously injured in that confrontation when Bill fired a round to his head.
We had expected more attendees to the service which was to start at 9:00 a.m. Soon the closed casket of Bill arrived and was set up in the front in the sanctuary. It was not a formal religious service. Before the service started, we had a briefing by the officiating person. By the time the service started, there were around 85 persons seated in the pews. Some of the attendees were from the Midwestern states, some were from the East Coast. A few, such as us, were from California. Others were from other Southwestern states and the rest were local folks.
It was a simple, informal service with a prayer in the beginning, followed by a short biography of Bill, followed by Eulogies and Remembrances by speakers and a final prayer, followed by the recessional of the casket from the sanctuary and a car processional to the Springerville Town Cemetery a few miles away.
There were a total of 8 speakers at the service, including Anthony J. Hilder and myself. When my turn came, here is what I said from the podium:
"The world will always remember Bill Cooper as an egotistic, paranoia monger. Indeed, to many he was perhaps an arrogant, obnoxious, choleric, self-aggrandizing, rude, vitriolic and vengeful person. Perhaps he was all of this and much more. But no matter how negative his personality is described to be, we must admit the fact that he did indeed make a tremendous impact among hundreds, if not, thousands of his listeners, whether in front of his astounded lecture audiences or through his "shocking" radio programs.
I first met Bill back in 1989 in West L.A. when he was just an unknown speaker and where he spoke for the first time at a gathering called UFORUM in which I was a frequent attendee. I was quite stunned then with his hypothesis on the "Secret Government". It really sounded so fresh at that time because unlike most UFO speakers of that time, he convincingly injected "UFOs" to a "one-world government" right-wing flavored conspiracy theory.
I was so impacted by his hypothesis that I soon became a volunteer and helped him organize his first successful major public appearance that same year, which was held at Hollywood High School Auditorium, which was attended by well over 800 people. That became the historic launching pad for his national lecture circuit. And the rest is history.
Later, in December of that year, I even attended the controversial National MUFON Conference held in Las Vegas in which Bill Cooper was perhaps the most controversial speaker aside from John Lear and Bill Moore and others.
The Bill Cooper of then was very much into "ufology". Even in 1991, when Gary Schultz and I organized the first Ultimate Seminar in Rachel, Nevada ( 25 miles north of Area 51 ), we were surprised to see Bill Cooper as an attendee.
I remember quite well when Gary and I had to lead the people to the White Sides hill for a climb to view the base (Area 51), Bill Cooper could not make the climb due to his leg and he was even cracking up jokes about it. He stayed at the foothill of White Sides, without being able to see the facility.
In 1993 Bill Cooper, Eustace Mullins, Jordan Maxwell, Vladmir Terziski, Dr. Robert Strecker, Anthony Hilder and myself, together with a couple of other conspiracy speakers were all invited to speak at the First International Conference on Global Deception to be held in the famous Wembley Arena in London. Because of concerns for security due to the controversial nature of the conference, some of us decided not to travel to England. Nevertheless, Bill Cooper had the guts to go and speak at the conference. I admired him for that.
By 1993 I had completely abandoned the so-called "extraterrestrial hypothesis" of the origins of the UFO phenomena and began to promote the hypothesis that the entire UFO phenomena was a brilliantly concocted, staged and manipulated man-made deception by elitists to bring about certain agendas.
After this, for a few years I completely disassociated myself with Ufology.
I was quite surprised to learn that, later on, Bill Cooper also began to depart from "ufology" and was also beginning to hypothesize that "UFOs" had nothing to do with "aliens" but was a manipulation of the government to bring about fear to create a one-world government.
Cooper began to admit that he most likely had been shown disinformation by the government while he was in military service.
On this point, I truly commended Cooper for his admission. Cooper began to state that he was no longer a "ufologist". It was Cooper who coined the term "ufoology" and I also commended him for it. We both totally departed from "ufoology".
Here was Bill Cooper at his best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnp1kkH5Ldg
(As I stated, I also departed from "Ufology", although for me it was a temporary departure, since a couple of years later I began to take an interest in the role of "beliefs" among a segment of the population entrenched in America's UFO subculture......moreover, I also began to acknowledge my mistake in generalizing the entire UFO phenomenon as a briliantly concocted manipulation by the government........I should only have stated that "so far we have come up with not a single, solid, tangible, irrefutable publicly acknowledged evidence whatsoever that we have ever been, or are being, visited by physical extraterrestrial craft piloted or maneuvered by physical extraterrestrial aliens.)
After his departure from what he called "Ufoology", Bill Cooper became more involved in another area of his interest.
However, throughout all this, he kept his tendency to label anyone that didn't agree with him as "agents of CIA", etc. After moving to Arizona, he shifted his focus to the Patriot Movement (the Militia Movement), although in reality he was just a one-man militia, simply promoting his view on the Constitutional Republic through his radio programs to thousands of listeners. This was immediately after the Oklahoma Bombing. I, too, became involved in the militia movement.
I went to listen to Mark Koernke of the Michigan Militia in a large Conspiracy Conference in Palm Springs. I also became an acquaintance of Ted Gunderson, former FBI Special Agent-in-charge of Los Angeles who also became sympathetic to the militia movement. I also began to correspond with the Militia of Montana.
Besides his other numerous negative traits, Bill had an uncontrollable alcoholic problem.
But despite his eccentric, obnoxious personality, deep in his heart I believe that he wanted to be a good person. Unfortunately he brought an end to his tumultuous life by his self-fulfilling prophecy through his violent act. My heart goes out to Annie and the children. (My heart also goes out to the young deputy who was seriously injured in that confrontation. Bill will have to answer to God for that.) May God forgive and bless the soul of one Milton William "Bill" Cooper."
This is how I ended my "Remembrances" of Bill Cooper at his funeral. After the service, we all proceeded in a car processional to the cemetery, under the watchful eyes of several patrol cars, County Sheriff's vehicles and other governmental agency vehicles. It was just before noon that the casket of Bill Cooper was laid to rest at the graveside. The casket was then lowered into the ground. It was definitely one of the most emotional moments of my 20 years of being involved with "conspiratology".
Do I think that Bill Cooper was an unwitting participant in "disiformation"? I tend to lean towards that possibility. However, it is very possible that he became aware that he may have been drawn into such a situation.
Was Bill Cooper slowly drawn into delusional paranoia and may have been manipulated by certain individuals, operatives or certain groups with certain agendas, governmental or not? I do not know.
By the time that his now "classic" book, BEHOLD A PALE HORSE, came out and began to receive attention, ironically, he was just beginning to disassociate himself with much of what he wrote, especially when it came to the subject of UFOs.
BEHOLD A PALE HORSE was basically a compilation of his past military service history, his original speech THE SECRET GOVERNMENT, some obscure and outdated, unreliable information and articles provided by others regarding Area 51 and mixed in with verbatim copying of THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION, which many researchers had always regarded to be a fraud, to begin with.
I reiterate. I do not believe that Bill Cooper was a "paid" disinformant at all. I tend to believe that he was simply drawn into and manipulated into being an unwitting participant in this strange world of "conspiratology".
For additional reference on William "Bill" Cooper, please check this site:
http://billcooperdisinfo.webs.com/
And now, back to Norio Hayakawa's main website:
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com
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