UFOs, The Bottom Line: My Honest Answers

Recently on the "Coast to Coast" radio talk show (March 16, 2010.......you can listen to the repeat of that program at the bottom of this page) I tried to answer some of the most frequently asked questions on the UFO phenomenon that have been specifically addressed to me.

Here, then, are my straightforward, honest answers to some of those questions:

1) Is there a physical, underground U.S./Alien Joint Bio-Lab in Dulce, New Mexico?

My answer:

To the best of my knowledge, there is no hard, tangible, solid, irrefutable, physical, documentary evidence whatsoever that supports the allegation that there is a physical, underground U.S./alien Joint Bio-Lab in Dulce, New Mexico.
But my personal opinion is that there is "something" there. What that "something" is, I do not know. There is something "real" there, but we still do not know for sure what "real" is. What is "reality" to some people may not be "reality" to another person.
Physical reality (as we know it) may not be the only "reality" that exists in this universe.

By the way, speaking of Dulce, most people have never heard that in 1967 the U.S. government had experimentally exploded an atomic bomb underground, just about 21 miles southwest of Dulce, New Mexico. It was part of a post-war program called "Plowshare". The U.S. government exploded a nuclear device about one and a half mile underground. That specific experiment was called Project Gasbuggy.
It was experimentally conducted to ease the flow of natural gas in that region. At least that was what the government had said.
Three years ago I had a unique chance to visit Ground Zero there, thanks to the kindness of a Jicarilla Apache resident of Dulce who took me there.
It is my opinion that initially there had been some minor radiation leaks in that area. Some ranchers even told me that the government may have been monitoring the radiation level found in some particular animals, such as certain cows in that region.
Also, I had heard about some recurrent problems in fertility among some women in the Dulce area.

These are questions that still need to be addressed and answered. It is still inconclusive.
Here is my crazy, wild hypothesis on Dulce:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZAlvqCM4v8

2) Is Area 51 in Nevada still active?

My answer:

Yes, definitely. Even today, if one goes to the large parking area of E.G. & G. Terminal at Las Vegas' McCarren Airport, every weekday it is still filled with vehicles of employees who report to work at Groom Lake, Nevada (Area 51). There are still anywhere from 7 to 8 flights daily going to and from Area 51, on unmarked 737 jets that arrive and depart from the E.G. & G. Terminal.

In the past three years, there has been sizeable additions, clearly visible, to the Area 51 complex. Two years ago, a new 155-foot three-sided bluish radar tower was constructed by the tarmac. More new buildings, water tanks, etc., have been added in the past 3 years.
Last year, they just finished the construction of a humongous, new hangar towards the south of the complex. This new hangar is close to 4 times the size of the H-18 Hangar, until then the largest one on the complex.

Also, as of two months ago, they just completed the paving of the Groom Lake Road, from the complex all the way to the East perimeter boundary. A new communication tower has also been constructed near the East Guard Shack, near the boundary line.
Most people have no idea that Area 51 today has anywhere from about 1800 to 2200 part-time and full-time employees, all working on diverse, separate projects of highly compartmentalized programs conducted by defense contractors such as Lockheed, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Raytheon, General Atomics, TRW, etc. etc.
Some employees are assigned on a daily basis. Some stay at the base for a few days, a week, weeks, etc., depending on their assignments.
Both the Area 51 complex in Nevada and the Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah are definitely and actively pursuing diversified defense-related projects.

But what does this all have to do with UFOs?
Absolutely nothing.
To a segment of the population, Area 51 has become associated with "extraterrestrial technologies" only because of the allegation (i.e., from Robert Lazar) that there had been a back-engineering program conducted in secrecy at an allegedly, relatively small complex, allegedly hidden along the slope of Papoose Mountains, by Papoose Lake, about 10 miles south of Area 51.
There is no visible evidence of the existence of this S-4 site, as far as any detection by satellite photo is concerned.
The alleged S-4 site has become associated with Area 51 only because of its proximity to Area 51.
The bottom line to S-4 is that it is still an allegation only. That does not mean that it does not exist. It is inconclusive.

3) What is your take on the alleged crash of an alien spacecraft near Roswell in 1947?

My answer:

Again, the bottom line is that there is no hard, tangible, solid, physical, irrefutable, documentary evidence for that.
It is difficult for me to conceive in my mind that any such highly advanced extraterrestrial civilization, traversing through this vast space and arriving at our earth would even "crash".
The concept of something "crashing" is a typical human concept. It is part of a typical human concept, bound by a limited, "linear", "empirical" thinking.
Any highly advanced civilization (that could even penetrate our dimensional barrier in a non-linear fashion) would never have such accidents, in my opinion.

If there were indeed such a "crash" near Roswell in 1947, the only way it could have been a "crash" would have been if it were intentionally "staged".
My belief is that the Roswell incident (the "crash") was staged by the "entities" themselves or through an elitist group within the shadow government, in collusion with those "entities", for a purpose yet unknown.

and, finally,

4) Do you believe that there are actual, physical extraterrestrial craft being piloted or maneuvered by actual, physical extraterrestrial entities from outer space?

My answer:

No.
The UFO phenomenon is definitely real, no question about it.
However, so far I see no actual, physical, solid, tangible, irrefutable evidence that there are actual, phyiscal extraterrestrial entities piloting or maneuvering actual, physical extraterrestrial craft.
But, then, what about the UFO phenomenon?
It is still a mystery.

Here is my take on the entire UFO phenomenon.
I owe everything to Dr. Jacques Vallee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6iC39s3QE

In my opinion, the so-called abduction phenomenon is a real phenomenon, "real" to the "abducteees".
It is "real".
However, we still do not know for sure what "real" is.
My opinion is that there are many levels of "reality".
What is "real" to one person may not necessarily be "real" to another person.
This is the greatest challenge in ufology.
This may be a crazy thing to say, but maybe this life here itself may not really be "real".
This is why I say that ultimate "reality" can be experienced only after our physical death.

Anyway, here is:

My appearance on "Coast to Coast" talk radio show on March 16, 2010
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/03/16


Norio Hayakawa
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com

http://www.facebook.com/norio.hayakawa

I highly recommend Dr.Jacques Vallee's 5 most important propositions on the UFO phenomenon

I highly recommend Dr. Jacques Vallee's 5 most important propositions on the UFO phenomenon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6iC39s3QE


-Norio Hayakawa
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com

http://www.facebook.com/norio.hayakawa

My appearance on "Coast to Coast" talk radio show on March 16

from Norio Hayakawa at Civilian Intelligence Central

E-mail = noriohayakawa@gmail.com


This is to let everyone know that I was invited to be a guest on a talk radio show called "Coast to Coast" on Tuesday, March 16.

I believe that it was in 1995 that I was a guest on the same syndicated program, at that time, called "Dreamland", hosted by a gentleman named Art Bell.
It was quite enjoyable.

At that time I had a crazy two-hour video called "Secrets of Dreamland".
My main thesis on that talk show (and in that video) was that the covert government (if there were such a thing) would have sufficient technology to be able to artificially simulate or orchestrate a "fake" UFO threat to bring a forced global unity to the future world, should there be such a need.
My view on this has somewhat changed since 15 years ago.

Anyway, here is:

My appearance on "Coast to Coast" talk radio show on March 16, 2010
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/03/16

I shared some of the high strangeness encounters that I had experienced while researching two of my favorite topics: Area 51 and Dulce.

After more than 45 years of researching the UFO phenomenon, my hypothesis is that a conditioning of belief systems may have been carefully orchestrated towards a segment of the population since 1947 by a manipulative force that may be preparing mankind for a future paradigm shift and encounter.
Whether such a change in paradigm (mankind's consciousness, worldview and attitude) will come suddenly or in gradual steps, I don't know.
However, I believe that the ingrained and altered "realities" behind both Area 51 and Dulce may play a role in that scenario.
I will discuss those alternate "realities" that co-exist alongside the physical images of these locations.

In 2008 something told me to move from California to retire in New Mexico.
In my opinion, New Mexico may hold the key to the future destiny of mankind.

Some of the questions I answered in that program were:

1) Why is New Mexico so important in ufology?

2) Is there a physical, underground U.S./alien joint bio-lab in Dulce, New Mexico?

3) Is Area 51 in Nevada still active?

4) Do you believe that there have been any extraterrestrial technologies back-engineered in locations such as at Area 51?

5) What is your take on the alleged crash of an alien spacecraft near Roswell in 1947?
Was it a real event or a "staged" event, "staged" in collusion with an unknown force or intelligence?

6) Is the year 2012 of any significance in ufology?

7) Will there be a Disclosure by the government on UFOs?

8) Do you believe that there are actual, physical extraterrestrial craft being piloted or maneuvered by physical extraterrestrial entities from outer space?

and, finally,

9) What is your take on the so-called Project Blue Beam?

These are great questions that I tried to answer on that program.

Once again, you can hear that program right here:

My appearance on "Coast to Coast" talk radio show on March 16, 2010
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/03/16

Enjoy!!

-from Norio Hayakawa:

http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com

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A major Dulce-related witness on Saturday, March 6 in Albuquerque!!

A major Dulce-related witness (name withheld to protect his privacy and position) will be a surprise guest at the upcoming meeting of the Albuquerque/Rio Rancho UFO and Paranormal Forum which will be held on Saturday, March 6, at 1 p.m. in Albuquerque.

Here is the gist of the events for Saturday, March 6 in Albuquerque:

This is to let everyone know that on Saturday, March 6, I will be taking the members of the Albuquerque/Rio Rancho UFO and Paranormal Forum (and anyone else who is interested) to view Paul Bennewitz' residence as well as to view the Manzano Underground Nuclear Storage Complex from right next to the fence.

This is where Paul Bennewitz used to see some strange lights hovering above, back in 1979 and 1980.
We will view the complex as well as parts of Sandia Laboratories next to the complex (from a distance).
Paul Bennewitz was the key person behind the rumors of the alleged Dulce underground base.
The Saturday's event is part of the event of the Albuquerque/Rio Rancho UFO and Paranormal Forum, which will be held on the same day in Albuquerque.

I will also take you to next to the main gate at Kirtland Air Force Base and see the outside view of Paul Bennewitz' Thunder Scientific Labs (contractors to the Air Force), which is today operated by his ****.

We will first all meet at 11 a.m. at the Parking Lot of Thunder Scientific Labs, which is located right next to the main gate of Kirtland AFB (on the right side, facing the gate) at 623 Wyoming Blvd., SE, Albuquerque.

From there we will depart towards the Manzano Underground Nuclear Storage Complex next to Four Hills.
We will have some fast-food lunch in Four Hills.
And then we will all go to the meeting of Albuquerque/Rio Rancho UFO and Paranormal Forum, which will start at 1 p.m. at Manzano Mesa Multigenerational Center (Room 4), 501 Elizabeth St., SE, Albuquerque.
There will be a special surprise guest (a major Dulce-related witness) at the meeting.
It will be a day of fun for all!! (and will be educational, too).
Everything is FREE!!
Join us!!

Norio Hayakawa
http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa

I believe in flying saucers, not in UFOs!!

When people ask me if I believe in UFOs, I have a difficult time answering that question.
The best answer that I can think of, when confronted with such a question is "yes, I believe that sightings of UFOs are reported from time to time".
That answer itself, however, is an incorrect answer because it (the fact that sightings of UFOs are reported from time to time) is not a matter of beliefs. It's fact, not fiction.

First of all, UFOs have nothing to do with beliefs.
A UFO simply means an Unidentified Flying Object.

Like it or not, it's a term which was coined by the U.S. Air Force in 1952.
It was a term created with good intention to clarify things.
But on the contrary, it has created misunderstandings and more confusion than ever.
The word has truly "muddied the waters", so to say.

(Here is a comment made on this by an Internet poster: "and the reason the USAF chose the term UFO was they had no intention to admit there were "flying saucers". The USAF always intended that any sightings be placed into cubbyholes of explanations where those who were sighting the UFO simply did not comprehend what natural phenomenon they were seeing...........to admit there were "flying saucers" would be for the USAF to admit the possibility of foreign, or alien, ability to enter our airspace and THEIR inability to prevent it.")

Things were much simpler, especially between 1947 and 1952 when these unknown objects were called "flying saucers" or "flying discs".
It was because the vast majority of such objects sighted then were disc-shaped.
I would venture to say that this is true even today.
(although there have been noticeable reports of sightings of triangular-shaped craft in the past couple of decades or so).

Nevertheless, by a strange coincidence, the vast majority of similar objects reportedly sighted around the world throughout the history of mankind has also been predominantly disc-shaped.

So when people ask me if I believe in UFOs, my answer is "No, I don't believe in UFOs, but I believe in flying saucers".
I wish that people will discontinue to use the word UFOs.

But it is also important to emphasize that just because one believes in the existence of flying saucers, it does not necessarily mean that he or she believes that flying saucers are physical, extraterrestrial spacecraft piloted or maneuvered by physical, extraterrestrial beings from some inhabited planets in distant space.
That should be a separate question.

First of all, in my opinion, no one knows for sure what flying saucers are or where they come from.
This is still a mystery.

There are millions of people who believe in the existence of flying saucers.
In this sense, flying saucers no doubt exist in a level of reality envisioned by the observers.
Anything that mankind imagines floats and exists on a surface of a level of reality envisioned by mankind.
For example, do "elves" exist? Do "demons" exist?
The answer is yes.
Any thought or concept or even a word that originates from a person begins to float and exist on the surface of a plane of reality.
The noticeable level of such reality becomes even greater when more people begin to envision a similar vision.
For example, if there are 500 people who have almost the exact mental picture of a flying saucer, let's say, its dimensions, exact shape, color, etc., that collective picture will begin to occupy a higher and more noticeable level of reality.
In other words, what I am trying to say is that there are many many levels of reality.
Unfortunately mankind only knows one level of reality, i.e., the reality of physical reality.

So, once again, let me clarify my position.
I am not ashamed to say that yes, I am a firm believer in the existence of flying saucers!!

P.S.

In 1975 I was living in Phoenix, Arizona.
I clearly remember one day in that year receivng from my mother a most interesting letter.
I could see her excitement in that letter.
She wrote to me in that letter saying that about 10 days before, she had distinctively observed a silvery, metallic "flying saucer"-shaped object (with a dome) hovering just above a crowded railway station in Yokohama, Japan.

It was in a broad daylight, around 11:30 a.m..
She described the object incredibly as a typical "flying saucer", just as "flying saucers" have always been depicted in comic books or in Sci-Fi movies.

She said in the letter that it happened when she and her grandson were walking away from the railroad station and walking towards home.
She felt as if "something had told her" to turn around and look back towards the railway station.
And, Lord, behold, right over the station, she suddenly saw this shiny, silverish, metallic, typical "flying saucer" with a dome hovering over!
She immediately pointed to her grandson to turn around and look, and at that very moment, the object was gone........vanished!
The street was filled with people coming from and going to the railway station.
She was so awe-struck that she didn't even notice anyone observing the object.

My mother had always been skeptical and always used to ridicule my serious interest in "UFOs".
(In my childhood years, I had always taken a great interest in "UFOs" or "flying sacuers", as they were called then, ever since my father had told me of his sighting of a strange, greenish "ball of fire" slowly moving over Yokohama bay one summer night in 1947, as he was night-fishing, his favorite hobby of many many years.
He swore that the object seemed as if it were "intelligently controlled" or "intelligently maneuvering".
He said he had never seen anything like it before. My father had passed away in 1982. My mother passed away in 1998.

But getting back to my mother, her amazing sighting totally made her a believer.
Do I believe in her sighting?
By all means, yes.
I have the highest respect for my mother and I totally believe what she said in the letter.
I visited my mother a few years later and she confirmed her sighting exactly as she wrote me.
There is no doubt in my mind that she did see what she said she saw.

Once again, do I believe in the existence of flying saucers?
Yes, no doubt about it.

-from Norio
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com

http://www.facebook.com/norio.hayakawa

My true feelings about the UFO phenomenon

In November of 2009, I was interviewed by a visiting artist from Santa Monica, Jeremy Corbell.
Jeremey Corbell also happens to be one of the most knowledgeable researchers on the UFO phenomenon that I have come to know.
The extensive conversation was very casual. It was held at a Starbuck's coffee shop in Albuquerque.
Jeremey is a great interviewer. He knows how to put you at ease. He truly knows how to put you in a relaxed atmosphere.
I have had so many interviews in my life, but this is, by far, the best and most enjoyable one in which I could freely express:

My true feelings about the UFO phenomenon
http://ufoquest.info/ufoquest.info/NEWS/Entries/2009/11/19_NORIO_HAYAKAWA.html

(Download will take about a minute).

-from Norio

http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com

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Is a UFO in the background of a Masonic lithograph from 1866?

Here is a fascinating recent discovery made by my friend Jeremy Corbell:

Is a UFO in the background of a Masonic lithograph from 1866?
http://ufoquest.info/ufoquest.info/NEWS/Entries/2010/2/21_NEW_DISCOVERY__Evidence_of_UFOs_found_in_a_MASONIC_lithograph_from_1866.html

Jeremy, a brillant artist from Santa Monica, California, visited me here in New Mexico in November of 2009.
He stayed in New Mexico for several months, during which time we exchanged some fascinating information on ufology in general.

-from Norio

http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com

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